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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Nelson Mandela (Walubengo J)
   2. Re: We must tread carefully on cyber security (Dennis Kioko)
   3. Re: We must tread carefully on cyber security
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 01:22:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Walubengo J <

jwalu@yahoo.com>
To: Eric Osiakwan <ericosiakwan@me.com>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Nelson Mandela
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Not ICT related but allow me to also salute the African Icon Mandela.

One thing he did very differently from an African perspective, is to leave office when he was still needed => good succession planning => good legacy.

This is the most difficult lesson for our African leaders.

#RIPNelsonMandela.

walu.


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On Fri, 12/6/13, Eric Osiakwan <ericosiakwan@me.com> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Nelson Mandela
 To: jwalu@yahoo.com
 Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
 Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 12:08 PM

 +1
 RIP NRM -- you have inscribed yourself into TIME
 and HUMANITY.
 Eric here

 On 6 Dec 2013, at 09:44, Lkimani <lkimani@yahoo.com>
 wrote:
 My favorite Madiba quote:
 Conviction is contagious,?never
 underestimate thePower of
 persistence"
 ? ? ? ? ....Nelson Madiba
 Mandela
 RIP Tata Madiba you were and still are an an
 inspirationto us. ?We will truly miss
 you!
 Lucy

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 Date: December 6, 2013, 7:16:00 AM GMT+03:00
 To: "Lucy Kimani" <lkimani@yahoo.com>
 Subject: Nelson Mandela
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 Dear Lucy,

 Nelson Mandela's unwavering courage, forgiveness and
 hope touched and inspired people all around the world. He
 showed that the dream of a just society is possible and he
 challenged our generation to lead the way towards it.

 As Mandela said in his extraordinary 2005 speech in
 London's Trafalgar Square, 'Like slavery and
 apartheid, poverty is not natural. It is man-made and it can
 be overcome and eradicated by the actions of human
 beings.'

 And he ended his speech with a call that moves us still.

 'Sometimes,' Mandela said, 'it falls upon a
 generation to be great. You can be that great generation.
 Let your greatness blossom.'

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Date: Fri, 06 Dec 2013 12:17:18 +0300
From: "Dennis Kioko" <dmbuvi@gmail.com>
To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com>
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Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 09:49:50 +0000
From: ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk
To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com>, "kictanet"
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Walu,
Say it louder! We need substantial objectivity on some of these matters.

John Kariuki.
Sent from my BlackBerry?

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From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>
Sender: "kictanet"
 <kictanet-bounces+ngethe.kariuki2007=yahoo.co.uk@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2013 00:19:47
To: <ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on cyber security

@Ali,

your comments sound like ITU-WCIT debate Reloaded :-)

Let me be cheeky abit.

If SPAM can ONLY be tackled by technology - why hasn't it been tackled? Indeed the technology that could kill spam (e.g. PKI deployment at IP, SMTP, DNS-SEC, etc- apologies for the Tech jargon) has been with us for over 10years...how come spam refused to die?

Dont get me wrong, I am still civil-society biased. It is just that I get worried when solutions to complex problems are straight-jacketed into one block (tech, political, legal or otherwise).  I think the solutions do not lie on ONE of the above, but all of the above.

walu.

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On Fri, 12/6/13, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:

 Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on cyber security
 To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com>
 Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
 Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 10:59 AM

 Walu
 I'm of the opinion that Spam is an issue
 tackled best by technology NOT legislation...

 Ali Hussein
 +254 0770
 906375 / 0713 601113
 "I fear the day technology will
 surpass human interaction. The world will have a generation
 of idiots". ?~ Albert Einstein
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 On Dec 6, 2013, at 10:54 AM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>
 wrote:

 @Ndemo,

 The fact that the raccoon (google says this is some
 animal in the US :-) did manage to flood your email with
 spam is a confirmation that we do need the cyber-laws even
 in Africa :-)

 Anyway, whereas I agree with most of your article I
 had a comment on this one paragraph :

 The industry sometimes lies with
 statistics that in most cases do not make any sense.
 Gullible nations are spending a fortune on cyber security.
 Even countries with less than one per cent Internet
 penetration are talking about cyber security.
 <<

 I was of the opinion that countries with fewer
 machines online SHOULD be talking loudest about
 Cybersecurity simply because we live in a connected world.
 Most IT-savvy cyber-criminals ?based in developed
 economies hijack the few ?"3rd-world"
 (forgive the use of word) networks/computers to launch
 attacks in other jurisdictions. Unless there are
 laws/frameworks compelling corrective action most of these
 local networks will forever remain vulnerable.

 However, it also true is that some
 autocratic/non-democratic governments are going to ride this
 cyber-security bandwagon for the sake of adding more
 repression to their citizenry. The civil-society (recently
 baptized as evil-society :-) must forever be
 watchful.

 walu.

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 On Fri, 12/6/13, Bitange Ndemo <bitange@jambo.co.ke>
 wrote:

  Subject: Re: [kictanet] We must tread carefully on
 cyber security
  To: jwalu@yahoo.com
  Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions"
 <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
  Date: Friday, December 6, 2013, 8:12 AM

  Hussein,
  Some raccoon decided to clog my e-mail with spam
 as
  punishment because of
  the article.? I am not opposed to cyber security
 but
  some people (and you
  remember Dubai) want to use cyber security as a basis
 for
  stifling
  internet freedom.

  Ndemo.



 Grace

 Thanks for
 sharing. We indeed must tread carefully.
  There is definitely a
 case for a regulatory
 framework. This must however be
  tampered with the
 understanding that too much
 regulation will throttle
  the industry. It is a
 fine balance that we must
 maintain.

 *Ali
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 On Thu, Dec 5,
 2013 at 9:20 PM, Grace Githaiga
 <ggithaiga@hotmail.com>wrote:

 n Kenya, we have done extremely well in
 the
  adoption of ICTs. This is
 a
 field
 that requires a lot of creativity, but we may
  just end up killing
 that
 creativity with too many rules and regulations
  in trying to
 counter
 computer crime sometimes referred to as
 cybercrime
  or netcrime.

 http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Opinion-and-Analysis/We-must-tread-carefully-on-cyber-security/-/539548/2098892/-/item/0/-/12mo495/-/index.html

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