Can Grace and Walu please organize for KICTANET/Tech Enterprenuers to meet with top Security Officials? There are sensitive issues that cannot be noted on a public mailing list such as this. There are parties (e.g. Walu) on KICTANET who are not involved in bribing for business. We need these kind of people for more transparency. On Sep 25, 2013 8:47 AM, "robert yawe" <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Listers,
As expected we retreat back to the comfort of our keypads and allow another opportunity to make a change pass as slowly by.
Regards
"to the wilderness I shall retire where the birds, the bees and the trees do not pretend to take notice of my rants, at peace shall I be" - The Village Madman
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
------------------------------ *From:* S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> *To:* robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk *Cc:* KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Tuesday, 24 September 2013, 17:09 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Have we failed the nation yet again?
OK, Ms. Lizette, will be more positive, and desist from travel advisories to the West, where Africans are not welcome :)
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Lizette Kraft <lfkraft@gmail.com> wrote:
Stanley, Please desist from going into making remarks such as "racist travel advisories wil be made"". Although it would not be a good thing for the other countries to issue advisories, they are NOT doing it based on racism, but concern for the safety of their country men and women. Lets be mature about what we right and spread positivity instead of negativity. Thank you. Lizette On 23 Sep 2013 10:22, "S.M. Muraya" <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> wrote:
Racist travel advisories will be issued but business in Kenya will continue with more objective partners.
About two years ago, a senior immigration officer explained to me the organizational systems to contain the current situation "with evil foreign elements" existed in Kenya, well over 20 years ago. Instead, we ignored existing governance systems and sold out in the early nineties. He noted, we have smart youth who have grown up in Kenya, who come for passports without proper identification papers after schooling in institutions like Starehe. Their parents are not truly Kenyan, and the youth are torn between Kenya and other nations.
As for the police, let us not forget, it is 15 years now, since there was a terrorist attack of this magnitude in Kenya. They just need to be better equipped. Earlier this year, some police at the station with closest access to Westgate, told me we need to plead with local and national leaders to prioritize upgrading their living conditions and equipment so they can work better.
https://plus.google.com/107276446818871897324/posts/Xok4HQg7VPT
At this police station there is one rarely operational vehicle. The way to improve security is increased transparency by us all.
Regards
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 8:30 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>wrote:
Hi,
As we console all those who where affected by the happenings at the Westgate Mall over the weekend do we remain blameless as an industry?
Regards
Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
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