Phares,

You raise a very pertinent issue, why do we prefer to build afresh rather than fix what is broken, as a multi lingual forum I would like us to carry out the following exercise

Can every one of us please post the word in their mother-tongue that has an equivalent meaning to the english word "maintain" indicate the tongue followed by the word.

Regards

 
Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
From: Phares Kariuki <pkariuki@gmail.com>
To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk
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Sent: Thursday, 24 January 2013, 10:39
Subject: Re: [kictanet] KONZA GROUND BREAKING CEREMONY-CONGRATULATIONS

I don't buy that argument… I'm quite sure New York is more built out than Nairobi… 

http://qz.com/45728/new-york-is-now-a-better-place-to-start-your-tech-company-than-san-francisco/

Nairobi doesn't qualify as a heavily built city. With roughly the same amount of acreage, New York has a population of 8M and serves a metropolis of 18M (roughly 40% of .ke's population).The problem is that we are not using land rates as the incentive they should be to encourage people to build northwards and not hoard land. If land rates were high enough, apartments blocks would hold more people, office blocks (especially) would hold more people to ease the pressure on residential land. Obviously, we would need the City Council to come in and provide necessary goods, but the systemic failure to do so (across towns in the country) is something that needs to be addressed even as we move to Konza to avoid a repeat of the same. How easy is it to do business, get permits etc. issues that need to be resolved, aside from Konza. 

This has nothing to do with Konza per-se, just the notion that Nairobi is beyond saving. Cities last hundreds/thousands of years (Rome, London, Paris, Istanbul, Jerusalem etc). We just need to learn how to fix these problems. From my perspective this is a larger development issue. We see this all over the place when it comes to development in the country. Toss out the education system, replace it with another (instead of figuring out what's wrong with the current system and gently correcting it, to avoid systemic shocks, which tend to have more consequences than an easing of the same - simple example, 8.4.4. and the 18-22 month waiting period before you joined a university - finally resolved last year). 
On Thursday, January 24, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Mark Mwangi wrote:
But what is this technology we speak of? Is technology only to do with coding in the vacuum of infrastructure?

Heavy infrastructure building is in my opinion the only way to ensure there is enough resources to support high technology. Building a city from the ground up will allow proper planning and sustainability if the vested interests are not allowed to hijack the entire process. 

I say go ahead and if it doesn't work then so be it. Whats the alternative? Keep trying to panel beat Nairobi?



On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 9:38 AM, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Researcher,

Tell me how do I write a string in C to add from 1 to 100 using the sheng language?

After we have convinced our youth to develop the sheng language which of the 200,000 jobs do we expect them to be hired for when Fedex, IBM, Google and Huawei setup at Konza

    1.  Night sweeper,
    2.  Gardener,
    3.  Solar panel cleaner
    4.  Database optimisation architect

Regards

PS.  I retain my position that Konza is a construction project not a technology project as confirmed by Dr. Ndemo's statements on twitter yesterday

Bitange Ndemo @bantigito
#Konza Technology City will consist of (1 of 1): 1) Modern BPO Park 2) Science Park 3) Convention Center. 4) Mega Mall. 5) Data Centres.

#Konza Technology City will consist of (2 of 1): 1) World-class Hotels 2) Local and International Schools 3) World Class Hospitals.

Bitange Ndemo @bantigito
#Konza Technology City will consist of (3 of 1) :1) Championship Golf Course, 2) Financial District, 3) High Speed Mass Transport System.

#Konza Technology City will consist of (4 of 1): 1) Residential Housing, 2) Superior Modern Integrated Infrastructure, among other features.

 
Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya

Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
From: ICT Researcher <ict.researcher@yahoo.com>
To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk
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Sent: Thursday, 24 January 2013, 8:04

Subject: Re: [kictanet] KONZA GROUND BREAKING CEREMONY-CONGRATULATIONS

btw, vuta aerial... saka "chwani" hapa: www.sheng.co.ke, pamoja! 

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To: "eonchari@lynxbits.com" <eonchari@lynxbits.com>
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Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2013 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] KONZA GROUND BREAKING CEREMONY-CONGRATULATIONS

Rather than remaining adamantly fixed on a now realistically bygone era of afresh reconstruction of entirely new, singly-owned, ICT empires - from ground-up, perhaps the said NTHs should consider newer http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coopetition business models approach to growing their tech biasharas at Konza. How many of the multinationals currently interested in setting shop at Konza do *everything* inhouse? Unfortunately, adopting "rebel" NTH tag does not make global realities go away.

my chwani ;-) 

From: "eonchari@lynxbits.com" <eonchari@lynxbits.com>
To: ict.researcher@yahoo.com
Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] KONZA GROUND BREAKING CEREMONY-CONGRATULATIONS

@ Liko,

As VP put it rightly at the launch...we need more "crazy" Dr Ndemos to make things happen...therefore, as a Nairobi Tech Hustler, I shall take me to Konza and Hustle there 'till I make it...this is a good project and we should be  proud that it is now on course...of course criticism is healthy and must be tolerated in a democracy - and I am sure the many critics within and without this forum did +vely influence the approach of this project over the years

Therefore, Kudos to Dr. Ndemo and your team  for a job well done thus far

Edwin

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Sent: 1/23/13 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] KONZA GROUND BREAKING CEREMONY-CONGRATULATIONS

@Liko,

You/Pesapal is a big player...and you should be there hustling with the big boys at Konza Technopolis. Dream big, and you will be surprised how soon your dreams come true.

For me, Konza is an example of what we as a country are capable of. A break from the past, where we compared ourselves to our neighbours (e.g Somalia with apologies) and a leap into comparing ourselves with where we belong (read Malaysia, Singapore et. al.)

Lets aim for the Sun, because the worst that can happen is that we land on the moon.  Rather than aim for the main, and by 2030, we shall still be here on earth :-)
 
walu.


From: Agosta Liko
To: jwalu@yahoo.com
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 3:36 PM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] KONZA GROUND BREAKING CEREMONY-CONGRATULATIONS

Mr Nduati

Raising concerns and shaping decisions does not make one a doubting Thomas

but the, this thing is for HP, Oracle, Microsoft ... not Nairobi Hustle Tech

Thanks




On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 3:49 PM, charles nduati <charlesnduati2002@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Hi Daktari Ndemo and Your team,

Congratulations on the ground breaking ceremony tomorrow. I wonder where the doubting Thomases are. Have a great day and let us know where the party will be thereafter

Kudos all

Charles Nduati
 


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