Well said Bwana Ndemo. The design challenges you have illustrated are just a fraction of the design challenges of Thika Road. Slip roads (properly designed not 90 degrees) are also needed that take you efficently back to the opposite direction should you miss your turning for e.g. rather than drive miles and miles before you get a way back. I absolutely agree that foot bridges hardly work especially when wide spread...it reminds me of the "great wall of china" on the Naivasha road where people jump over the wall or make acrobatic moves and balances on the wall while awaiting cars moving at neck breaking speed...you have deadly accidents on that road when an slight error is made in their acrobatic moves. Eric, I'm trying to wrap my head around the link between accurate road safety data and road designs especially after roads are completed and the deal sealed like Thika Road. Please explain as much as I appreciate research and data. I'm still recovering from Eng Kidenda saying (through a proxy) how he's too busy to engage with stakeholders on some of these crucial issues including suggestions provided by listers on some of the smart transport solutions which are relevant to this list. Edith ________________________________________ From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of bitange@jambo.co.ke [bitange@jambo.co.ke] Sent: 17 May 2012 18:45 To: Edith Adera Cc: Nashon Adero; James Gachanja; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya' Road Safety Status Dakitari, When the construction of Thika road started, I twitted that the design of the road may not be compatible with our culture. I specifically made severance to South Korea where every other two kilometrers they raise the road to enable people and animals to have access to both sides of the road. I was told it was too early to complain. The design of the fly-overs too will not reduce the possibility of jams. The Museum Hill fly-over will be more problematic than the round-about was. The roads converge in a way that does not allow smooth flow of traffic. Back to Thika road. There is no need for any study since we all know that foot bridges never work for us. An under-pass would have done it. University of Nairobi students an underpass for years since the three lane highway was introduced on Uhuru Highway. We have so much knowledge but it seems it never helps. The solution on Thika Road is to demolish any building a long the road that is within one half of a kilometre. This will stall people from jumping across to visit. Such highways are either sunken to allow easier over-passes or are raised at different intervals. Regards. Ndemo. Sent from my BlackBerry® -----Original Message----- From: "Eric Aligula" <jairah@kippra.or.ke> Sender: "kictanet" <kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke>Date: Thu, 17 May 2012 18:00:40 To: <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Cc: Nashon Adero<nadero@kippra.or.ke>; James Gachanja<jgachanja@kippra.or.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: [kictanet] Kenya' Road Safety Status _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/bitange%40jambo.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications. _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/eadera%40idrc.or.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.