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Today's Topics:

1. Re: .Ke domains cross the 100, 000 Mark (Reminder to Team to
make good on their promise during last year?s AGM on and
improving on Corporate Governance. (Ali Hussein)
2. Re: .Ke domains cross the 100,000 Mark (Reminder to Team
KeNIC to make good on their promise during last year?s AGM on
transparency and improving on Corporate Governance. The silence
is worrying) - REMINDER NO. 2 (Ali Hussein)


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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 15:10:28 +0300
From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>
To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Cc: Jimmy Gitonga <jimmygitts@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] .Ke domains cross the 100, 000 Mark (Reminder
to Team to make good on their promise during last year?s AGM on and
improving on Corporate Governance.
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Jimmy

Let me respond to you by repeating a quote I love:-

*Ask not what your country can do for you but what you can do for your
country ~ Khalil Gibran (Lebanese writer)*

We can't give up on this country. It is ours. Period. We will continue to
hammer it into shape. One nyundo at a time.

Regards

*Ali Hussein*

Digital Transformation


Tel: +254 713 601113

Twitter: @AliHKassim

Skype: abu-jomo

LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 12:59 PM Jimmy Gitonga via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Sen. Abshiro and Ali,

Dr. Kate Getao, then a director at the ICT Authority, at an Oracle
Developer Conference at PanAfric Hotel was asked this precise question.

She explained that the government had a Disaster Recovery Centre at
Ruaraka and that the government was building a datacenter in Naivasha,
close to Olkaria (for power purposes) to house all the data from and for
government agencies.
This data centre would then be opened up for counties. She carefully did
not give a date but we were thinking with the ?digital government?
promises, we would see this come to fruition within that election period.

Note, the problem is not lack of expertise in ICT. It seems we do not
?love? our country. I am not talking about patriotism, I am talking about a
good balanced pride in our country.
When people join government as elected officials or the civil service, it
is like they die inside. Something happens and I cannot figure out what it
is.

Ali is strong. Some of us stopped asking questions because it is tiring.

*Jimmy Gitonga*
@Afrowave
Web : Motion
On 6 Jul 2020, 08:58 +0300, kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke, wrote:


Message: 1
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 08:55:34 +0300
From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>
To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] .Ke domains cross the 100,000 Mark (Reminder
to Team KeNIC to make good on their promise during last year?s AGM on
transparency and improving on Corporate Governance. The silence is
worrying) - REMINDER NO. 2
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Mheshimiwa

Thanks for your personal attention on this matter. My two cents:-

1. First to answer your two issues.

a) *T**hat government jobs are so temporary especially for a certain cadre
of peopl*e - For as long as one is in Government employment everything that
person does on behalf of the people of Kenya remains the property of the
people of Kenya. I think the confusion starts when government employees mix
personal business with government business. There's a possibility here that
there is a requirement for some sensitivity training. We do take a lot for
granted but we shouldn't. Bottomline. ALL OFFICIAL BUSINESS SHOULD BE DONE
OFFICIALLY. ON GOVT COMMUNICATION CHANNELS. Which means official .go.ke
emails.
b) *Tech maintenance and support is so bad* - I will not be surprised if
this is the case. However, this should not be an excuse for not using
official Govt Email. To be honest, Mheshimiwa, its super embarrassing for a
country that is kicking ass (forgive the slang) in the technology space
worldwide to have a conversation with colleagues in say Nigeria, and one
sentence about Government Ministers using gmail/yahoo/hotmail deflates the
conversation. Isn't the ICT Authority supposed to sort of act as Government
CIO (Chief Information Officer). May be its time for a substantive
Government Chief Information Officer responsible for all ICT issues in
Government? including Data Centres, ICT Strategy etc? Do we need to revisit
ICTA's mandate?

2. In today's world, we cannot afford sensitive government documents all
over the world wide web on servers that we have zero control of. My sense
is that we need to have some basic **musts** that need to be engrained in
government employees. This could actually be an act of parliament on how
govt operates ICT Infrastructure for its day to day operations. Here's an
example of how the U.K Government deals with this email issue
<
chrome-extension://ohfgljdgelakfkefopgklcohadegdpjf/https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/207131/Private_Email_guidance.pdf

.

3. Lastly Mheshimiwa, this issue of government email use has been discussed
for years on this list and others. I don't honestly think (with all due
respect to all responsible) that it has been taken seriously enough. Time
to take it a notch higher. Could it possibly be something that the Senate
ICT Committee can take up and see it to its logical conclusion? I mean if
the National Government is in such a rut when it comes to basic email
communication can you imagine what is happening in the counties?

I think that should be enough to keep you busy on this issue. :-)

*Ali Hussein*

Digital Transformation

Tel: +254 713 601113

Twitter: @AliHKassim

Skype: abu-jomo

LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>

Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely
mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the
organizations that I work with.

On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 11:33 PM Abshiro Halake via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Ali, Twahir, team,

Great idea to enlighten the government and its agencies on this. The ICT
Ministry should actually take the lead. We could put a parliamentary
question to the ICT Ministry as to why the government continues to use
personal emails. That being said, I was once told that there are two
reasons why this is the case - 1. that government jobs are so temporary
especially for certain cadre of people and 2. tech maintenance and

support

is so bad. Not sure if these are just excuses but it may be worth it to
still put the questions. Can someone send me a few pointers to include in
the question/statement? Perhaps why it is important to change this and

also

reassurance on security etc.....

Thanks and kind regards,

Sen. Abshiro

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Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2020 15:18:43 +0300
From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>
To: Abshiro Halake <abshiro.halake@gmail.com>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] .Ke domains cross the 100,000 Mark (Reminder
to Team KeNIC to make good on their promise during last year?s AGM on
transparency and improving on Corporate Governance. The silence is
worrying) - REMINDER NO. 2
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Mheshimiwa

Thanks for your response and continued engagement with the community. I
recall Dr. Ndemo once remarked to me -

*"Ali, wacha wewe!, you haven't worked until you've worked in government." *

I'm sure its worse than that. We can't however give up. I've seen
government agencies work better than the private sector. Someone needs to
be held accountable. To my point 3. If someone at the Presidential Delivery
Unit could just be convinced that without proper tools of communication the
Big Four Agenda will be put in jeopardy...


*Ali Hussein*

Digital Transformation


Tel: +254 713 601113

Twitter: @AliHKassim

Skype: abu-jomo

LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>




Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely
mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the
organizations that I work with.


On Mon, Jul 6, 2020 at 2:34 PM Abshiro Halake <abshiro.halake@gmail.com>
wrote:

Thanks very much Ali, these are great pointers. And yes Senate ICT
committee will take it up. Will it be concluded in the 12th parliament's
term? Please don't hold me to it but we shall try our very best.

With regards to the excuse that tech support is so bad that government
employees resort to personal mail, they actually have a point there. A tale
is told of employees fired becuase they were not responsive yet the mail to
which the urgent request from a "very important person" went was down for
days. I have heard that employees resorting to personal mail is out of
desperation and willingness to serve in the face of non-existent
infrastructure and support. Either way, we must deal with this. This is
definitely noted and we will take it up.

On Mon, Jul 6, 2020, 08:55 Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:

Mheshimiwa

Thanks for your personal attention on this matter. My two cents:-

1. First to answer your two issues.

a) *T**hat government jobs are so temporary especially for a certain
cadre of peopl*e - For as long as one is in Government employment
everything that person does on behalf of the people of Kenya remains the
property of the people of Kenya. I think the confusion starts when
government employees mix personal business with government business.
There's a possibility here that there is a requirement for some sensitivity
training. We do take a lot for granted but we shouldn't. Bottomline. ALL
OFFICIAL BUSINESS SHOULD BE DONE OFFICIALLY. ON GOVT COMMUNICATION
CHANNELS. Which means official .go.ke emails.
b) *Tech maintenance and support is so bad* - I will not be surprised if
this is the case. However, this should not be an excuse for not using
official Govt Email. To be honest, Mheshimiwa, its super embarrassing for a
country that is kicking ass (forgive the slang) in the technology space
worldwide to have a conversation with colleagues in say Nigeria, and one
sentence about Government Ministers using gmail/yahoo/hotmail deflates the
conversation. Isn't the ICT Authority supposed to sort of act as Government
CIO (Chief Information Officer). May be its time for a substantive
Government Chief Information Officer responsible for all ICT issues in
Government? including Data Centres, ICT Strategy etc? Do we need to revisit
ICTA's mandate?

2. In today's world, we cannot afford sensitive government documents all
over the world wide web on servers that we have zero control of. My sense
is that we need to have some basic **musts** that need to be
engrained in government employees. This could actually be an act of
parliament on how govt operates ICT Infrastructure for its day to day
operations. Here's an example of how the U.K Government deals with this
email issue.

3. Lastly Mheshimiwa, this issue of government email use has been
discussed for years on this list and others. I don't honestly think (with
all due respect to all responsible) that it has been taken seriously
enough. Time to take it a notch higher. Could it possibly be something that
the Senate ICT Committee can take up and see it to its logical conclusion?
I mean if the National Government is in such a rut when it comes to basic
email communication can you imagine what is happening in the counties?

I think that should be enough to keep you busy on this issue. :-)

*Ali Hussein*

Digital Transformation


Tel: +254 713 601113

Twitter: @AliHKassim

Skype: abu-jomo

LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>




Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely
mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the
organizations that I work with.


On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 11:33 PM Abshiro Halake via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Ali, Twahir, team,

Great idea to enlighten the government and its agencies on this. The
ICT Ministry should actually take the lead. We could put a parliamentary
question to the ICT Ministry as to why the government continues to use
personal emails. That being said, I was once told that there are two
reasons why this is the case - 1. that government jobs are so temporary
especially for certain cadre of people and 2. tech maintenance and support
is so bad. Not sure if these are just excuses but it may be worth it to
still put the questions. Can someone send me a few pointers to include in
the question/statement? Perhaps why it is important to change this and also
reassurance on security etc.....

Thanks and kind regards,

Sen. Abshiro

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 8:26 PM Twahir Hussein Kassim via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

On these lines, the central government, county governments,
parastatals, constituencies etc need to take the lead.

As Ali earlier in the week shared, it's very unfortunate to see
government department letterheads with a PERSONAL yahoo / gmail / hotmail
address. Is it that the government is unable to host a mail server or
procure a cloud service? Bottom line again you will note is the ignorance
towards basic IT security.

KENIC should seek to enlighten the powers that be!

My 2 cents!

On Sat, Jul 4, 2020, 12:55 PM Ali Hussein via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

?Team KeNIC

As we celebrate the 100k milestone we need to take cognisant of the
issues raised in the last AGM. We still await a comprehensive
follow-through by KeNIC. I suspect with better corporate governance the
next milestone of 100k names will be much easier to reach.

Regards

*Ali Hussein*


Tel: +254 713 601113

Twitter: @AliHKassim

Skype: abu-jomo

LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
<http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>




Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are
purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the
organizations that I work with.


On Wed, Apr 1, 2020 at 11:21 PM Barrack Otieno via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Listers,

Finally we have over 100,000
<http://registry.kenic.or.ke/statistics.jsp> .Ke names, what a
milestone. Next should be the 1 Million Mark.

Kudos to the KeNIC team.

Regards

--
Barrack O. Otieno
+254721325277
+254733206359
Skype: barrack.otieno
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