Shem, Alex et al, Am not sure if this is the right forum to discuss or speculate on who is the bigger thief within the ICT industry. And if someone wishes to go in the direction, they must do so on conclusive evidence or at least try to find a way to tie (disguise?) that discussion towards ICT Policies - e.g. what ICT Policies need to be in place to pre-empt such recurrence. If we dont stick to these guidelines, I foresee a lot of members un-subscribing...starting with me. walu. By the Way: I do love juicy stories, I just dont think that this is the space for them. --- On Thu, 7/3/08, Shem Ochuodho <shemochuodho@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Shem Ochuodho <shemochuodho@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Bulk of KenyanWealth Owned by Foreigners To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "New Vision List" <newvisionkenya@yahoogroups.com>, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 10:41 AM Gakuru,
I took the State to court 4 years ago; the matter has never been heard. Unfortunately, being in court, it even can't be discussed openly. They control the courts. If there is anything more you know than I do, I would like to hear it. So/And that would be a wrong excuse not to ask queries.
Shem
--- On Thu, 7/3/08, Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Bulk of KenyanWealth Owned by Foreigners To: shemochuodho@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 12:58 AM
Did the pipeline matter end to cast the first stone?
--- On Wed, 7/2/08, Shem Ochuodho <shemochuodho@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Shem Ochuodho <shemochuodho@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Bulk of KenyanWealth Owned by Foreigners To: alex.gakuru@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 8:30 AM I hope PS Ndemo is/has been watching the proceedings in Parliament (re Hon. Kimunya Censor Debate re Grand Regency, Safaricom IPO, Telkom Kenya, etc!!!).
Shem
--- On Sun, 6/29/08, wesley kiriinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: wesley kiriinya <kiriinya2000@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] {Disarmed} Re: [NewVisionKenya] Fwd: [africa-oped] Bulk of KenyanWealth Owned by Foreigners To: "Shem Ochuodho" <shemochuodho@yahoo.com> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 8:30 AM
"...Way forward, mobilize resources the Transcentury way and buy out all that which is owned by foreiners. They did not steal what they own. They simply caught us napping."
Mmmhhh makes me wonder about this Grand Regency thing. And many other things.
--- On Sun, 6/22/08, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
From: bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] {Disarmed} Re: [NewVisionKenya] Fwd: [africa-oped] Bulk of KenyanWealth Owned by Foreigners To: kiriinya2000@yahoo.com Cc: "Kazi Afrika" <kaziafrika@googlegroups.com>, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Sunday, June 22, 2008, 11:01 AM
Although in telcom sector the law requiores local partnership, what the research is telling us is not a problem but an opportunity that we must take advantage of. The Tea estates referred to here have changed hands several times. It is therefore imperative that when they float them, we shall mobilize resources to buy them out.
It is not enough to complain and leave the issue to die. There is need to educate our people that in a capitalist economy, there are exit routs to pride ourselves with ownweship of our properties. Some advamced countries own far less than 31 percent of their assets.
We are fortunate that the investment bug has hit Kenya if Safaricom IPO is anything to go by. Unless we want to radically change our economic orientation with respect to ownership, which I know it is not possible, there is nothing to fuss about.
Way forward, mobilize resources the Transcentury way and buy out all that which is owned by foreiners. They did not steal what they own. They simply caught us napping.
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