Cleophas/Dennis, You both make very valid and cogent points and you are both right. We need all of us, schools (education system), parents, family faith based and religious organizations, enforcement agencies to chip in and inculcate discipline, ethics and values in society. I cannot possibly overstate the importance of this in the drive towards Vision 2030!! Mugo Kibati Director General Kenya Vision 2030 Delivery Secretariat KUSCCO Centre, 2nd Floor - Upper Hill PO Box 52301 - 00200, Nairobi Email: [email protected] www.vision2030.go.ke -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cleophas Barmasai Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 2:13 PM To: Mugo Kibati Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Vision 2030: ICT and Other Sectors Converged (Day 1) Dennis on the contrary, I think the 'stick' is important for discipline, at least to a certain age. In my opinion traditions and religions, which have driven value systems for centuries advocated for the 'rod' as form of punishment when one errs, especially for children. Christians believe in the need to train a child (aged below 12) in the way they should go so that when they are older (about 12 and above) they do not depart from the value system. I agree with Kibati that this is collective and I would lay the burden squarely on the parents. Teachers have little they can accomplish if they are getting children who have been poorly trained by parents. We need to go back to the family institutions that are the true foundations for the generations to come. Parents must spare time to raise up children with values that we desire. We must not allow the TV and most media to do so, except when reinforcing the parent. I think Vision 2030 can advocate for parents to inculcate the right culture from home level. Our education systems can help the parent in this role. My thoughts. Cleophas On 12/14/11, Dennis Kioko <[email protected]> wrote:
As for values, I think our education system is a culprit, we are brought up on a "stick" approach, be disciplined or else the teacher will punish you. Sadly, this ends after high school, and that is where drama begins
Schools should learn the concept of freedom with responsibilities, High school kids need to have more student freedom . Why is it in developed countries, schools don't need military discipline?
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