This is a chicken and egg argument that we cannot finish here.  What do
you think about the innovations coming out of the emerging laboratories
such as I-hub, I-lab and the like?  Do they not need to be incubated?
what about Ushahidi?


Ndemo.

> Daktari,
>
> On the military, I was referring more to the local scenario than globally.
> Without military research we probably wouldn't have the Internet and GPS
> just to take two examples.
>
> As regards Konza, IMO, its the right thing for us to do 20 years from now.
> Yes India is building a Konza in every state, but its building Konza when
> they already have a high technology industry which will take advantage of
> their Konzas. They have Tata, Mahindra Satyam, Infosys and similar $1b
> firms that can take advantage of these Konzas.
>
> But, for us, we do not even have a technology industry to speak of (please
> lets not call all these incubation centers pushing mobile apps that no one
> is buying an industry)
>
> So, the difference btn us and them is that they are building their Konzas
> because they need them and we are building ours to be like India. The
> classic Build, ????, Profit scenario...
>
> Before we invest such amounts of money in a real estate project, would it
> not have been more prudent and wise to invest that amount of money in
> research in our universities as an example? Yes, and it is true our
> universities are not doing enough research, yet, how much as a country are
> we investing in research in our own universities? If we are not investing
> anything much, then lets not sit and complain that they are not doing
> much.
>
> Research costs real money as real mistakes will need to be made as we
> learn!
>
> We do not need Konza for Vision 2030, but we do need to invest in
> research,
> we do need to invest in local technology firms (suppose 50% of that money
> was pushed to local firms to enhance their research and expand their
> business???), we do need to invest in teaching technology in our schools.
>
> Waithaka Ngigi
> A1.iO
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 11:04 PM, Bitange Ndemo <bitange@jambo.co.ke>
> wrote:
>
>> Military does invest in R&D through Universities.  Great ideas are
>> incubated, supported financially and intellectually.  Academics mill
>> around good ideas and help advance them.  That is why Zukerberg moved
>> from
>> Harvard to Silicon Valley where he was supported by the Universities
>> around there, the Government through Small Business Administration
>> financed the incubation.  Now the Government is reaping the benefits of
>> taxes from thousands of employees working there.
>>
>> Why do then debate so much on the merits and demerits of Konza.  India
>> is
>> building a Konza in every state.  Ushahidi was a great idea that we lost
>> a
>> chance to incubate and support its R&D plus financing its growth.
>> Unfortunately, not many Kenyans know this great idea.  Universities that
>> teach computer science hardly know new research areas to support the
>> vibrant ICT activities in the country.  How do we build an effective
>> triple helix?  How do we get the universities to do research that have a
>> meaning to its people?
>>
>> Ndemo.
>>
>>
>>
>> > Daktari,
>> >
>> > Problem is, technology generally moves along for both military and
>> > civilian
>> > use. Modern day terrorists and organised criminals are more than a
>> match
>> > for full sovereign states electronic firepower. The only way
>> military/law
>> > enforcement can ensure 'monopoly' of technology is by investing lots
>> in
>> > R&D, which I don't think we as a country do!
>> >
>> > Waithaka Ngigi
>> >
>> >
>> > On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Bitange Ndemo <bitange@jambo.co.ke>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Robert,
>> >> Nano technologies are here already.  Just like the Japanese
>> miniaturized
>> >> everything, we should nononize some products.  I will work with one
>> that
>> >> is a bit smaller.  Just imagine if we had one like that with night
>> >> vision.
>> >>  We could not have destroyed the entire parking.
>> >>
>> >> Ndemo.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Daktari,
>> >> >
>> >> > Is this what you where referring to when you mentioned an inzi?
>> >> >
>> >> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5TdbMu8xc4
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards
>> >> >
>> >> > PS.  Encouraging gaming could be what saves us next time there is a
>> >> > terrorist hostage situation
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Robert Yawe
>> >> > KAY System Technologies Ltd
>> >> > Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>> >> > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>> >> > Kenya
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ________________________________
>> >> >  From: Bitange Ndemo <bitange@jambo.co.ke>
>> >> > To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
>> >> > Cc: bitange@jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>> >> > <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> >> > Sent: Monday, 23 September 2013, 16:07
>> >> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Have we failed the nation yet again?
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Robert,
>> >> > There is absolutely nothing anybody will have done with ICTs after
>> the
>> >> > terrorists stormed the Mall.  All IT gadgets worked properly.  CCTV
>> >> > footage is there and was aired on TV yesterday.  The screening
>> askaris
>> >> had
>> >> > no chance since the assailants forced their way in.
>> >> >
>> >> > Perhaps what we need is more research to mount a camera on a fly
>> >> (inzi)
>> >> > with night vision to fly carefully within the terrorist hideout and
>> >> > establish strategically on how to respond.  Some flies could be
>> loaded
>> >> > with sleeping gas to put assailants to sleep.  Drones do scan the
>> >> horizon
>> >> > giving military advance knowledge of the terrain.
>> >> >
>> >> > Right now we should spend a few minutes to praise our uniformed
>> >> forces.
>> >> > They did a commendable job.  In bitterness I am still proud to be
>> >> Kenyan.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Ndemo.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >> Hi,
>> >> >>
>> >> >> As we console all those who where affected by the happenings at
>> the
>> >> >> Westgate Mall over the weekend do we remain blameless as an
>> industry?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Regards
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Robert Yawe
>> >> >> KAY System Technologies Ltd
>> >> >> Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>> >> >> P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>> >> >> Kenya
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Tel: +254722511225,
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>> >
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>
> *Wait**haka Ngigi*
> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod
> Building
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