Lucy and anyone interested,Talking about healthcare and comparing Cuba and USA, you should see SICKO http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sicko a documentary produced and directed by Michael Moore. Will help put into perspective some of these issues about access to necessary services. Trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BJyyyRYbSk Herbert --- On Wed, 3/28/12, kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke <kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: From: kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke <kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: kictanet Digest, Vol 58, Issue 137 To: herbertwamalwa@yahoo.com Date: Wednesday, March 28, 2012, 12:00 PM Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner@lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers (arebacollins@gmail.com) 2. Re: #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers (Lucy Kimani) 3. Re: #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers (Kivuva) 4. When they came for my neighbour . . . (robert yawe) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 19:38:30 +0300 From: arebacollins@gmail.com To: "mugo@vision2030.go.ke" <mugo@vision2030.go.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers Message-ID: <DAB5C079-42E7-4654-B398-19FA44730DE2@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Also in addition to mugokibati's comments... Big oil is currently run by an international cartel of players called opec, with both ability and means to wreak destabilizing interference in a way no one could. My suggestion would be a strategic approach to play game, seek a miniscule scale and then grow our involvement with time. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 27, 2012, at 6:51 PM, mugo@vision2030.go.ke wrote:
Just for the record. We should not be reworking Vision 2030 just yet. We still need to ascertain commercial viability over the next few months and even then it will take years to attain that commercialization. Some thinking can start of course but for now that's about it. Sent from my BlackBerry?
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------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 27 Mar 2012 23:36:25 -0400 From: Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> To: "mugo@vision2030.go.ke" <mugo@vision2030.go.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers Message-ID: <9400AF88-6753-4F7A-A4CE-44FFD32E59C7@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mugo, eh didnt think I should let you go unchallenged vis-vis I thought you were already reworking Vision 2030 to change that "unattainable" MDG on infant mortality:-) Today I heard that Cuba has a lower infant mortality than the U.S so question is what are they doing differently to achieve this on a shoe string budget and also somehow they have managed to attain a life expectancy of 80 years for their women? I know, I know not ICT related but you could start planning how to "USF" some of that oil revenue going towards making the MDG attainable:-) In the meantime perhaps bw. PS will let you use some of his USF to research and look at Cuba's best practices/lessons learned..... Lucy Sent from my iPad On Mar 27, 2012, at 11:51 AM, mugo@vision2030.go.ke wrote:
Just for the record. We should not be reworking Vision 2030 just yet. We still need to ascertain commercial viability over the next few months and even then it will take years to attain that commercialization. Some thinking can start of course but for now that's about it. Sent from my BlackBerry?
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------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:32:07 +0300 From: Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] #TurkanaOil-Kenya Discovers Message-ID: <CAEhPqwr=o-B2g7JXfK5Q+5xUTmSbzfuQOD3=WZKJ25ZRATw_1Q@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Some spanner in the works: A cabinet minister sold the gamia1 well to Tullow Oil at 800Million. Wow. Then with the best estimate of 2million barrels, Kenya has already put in place revenue sharing arrangement for the next 4 years, with Tullow oil getting 80%, 60%, 40%, 20% respectively. After that the resource goes back to Kenya, after which it might be COMPLETELY dry. OPEC cartels work with speed with minimum waste. Kenya is already screwed Regards. Lordmwesh On 28/03/2012, Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com> wrote:
Mugo, eh didnt think I should let you go unchallenged vis-vis I thought you were already reworking Vision 2030 to change that "unattainable" MDG on infant mortality:-) Today I heard that Cuba has a lower infant mortality than the U.S so question is what are they doing differently to achieve this on a shoe string budget and also somehow they have managed to attain a life expectancy of 80 years for their women? I know, I know not ICT related but you could start planning how to "USF" some of that oil revenue going towards making the MDG attainable:-) In the meantime perhaps bw. PS will let you use some of his USF to research and look at Cuba's best practices/lessons learned.....
Lucy
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On Mar 27, 2012, at 11:51 AM, mugo@vision2030.go.ke wrote:
Just for the record. We should not be reworking Vision 2030 just yet. We still need to ascertain commercial viability over the next few months and even then it will take years to attain that commercialization. Some thinking can start of course but for now that's about it. Sent from my BlackBerry?
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-- ______________________ Mwendwa Kivuva For Business Development Transworld Computer Channels Cel: 0722402248 twitter.com/lordmwesh transworldAfrica.com | Fluent in computing kenya.or.ke | The Kenya we know ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2012 07:04:55 +0100 (BST) From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: [kictanet] When they came for my neighbour . . . Message-ID: <1332914695.22468.YahooMailNeo@web27805.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Hi All, I see with the arrest of a blogger the fear seems to have reduced us to safe posting, here is mine. http://www.nation.co.ke/Features/DN2/The+long+and+winding+road+to+ICT++succe... ? ?Regards ? Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696