On 12 March 2012 10:23, Brian Munyao Longwe <
blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
> Short version:
>
> 1) Computer Society of Kenya aka CSK originated as an association of IT
> Managers and existed as such for many years - it's efforts to transform into
> a body representing IT businesses have failed...
>
> 2) If Mr Yawe has been part of KEPSA for as long as he claims then his
> deliberate attempts to misinform this forum leave a bad taste...
>
> 3) If technology business owners/entrepreneurs feel that they have no
> representative body and want to form one - thumbs up to them
>
> 4) If Government say that as far as they know no there is no entity that
> they feel represents technology business/entrepreneurs, then people should
> listen...
>
> Have a great week folk!
>
> Brian
>
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 9:27 AM, Rad! <
conradakunga@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> But what does the society do? Does it do any publicity? Engage the
>> community? Perhaps new leadership and ideas are called for.
>>
>>
>> On Monday, March 12, 2012, S.M. Muraya <
murigi.muraya@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Can it be renamed ICT Society of Kenya?
>> >
>> > If not, should an ICT Society not be formed?
>> >
>> > Computer Society sounds do nineties.
>> >
>> > Nowadays, most major vendors label themselves as Information Technology
>> > / Services firms.
>> >
>> > On Mar 12, 2012 8:47 AM, "Agosta Liko" <
agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I think we end up with a very simple task... Join and then strengthen
>> >> the Computer Society of Kenya and then lobby and organise from there
>> >>
>> >> Thanks
>> >>
>> >> On 3/12/12, robert yawe <
robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> >> > @ Brian,
>> >> >
>> >> > Thank you for the support to my post & I also agree with you that we
>> >> > need an
>> >> > entity to represent our interests, fortunately such an organisation
>> >> > exists,
>> >> > its called The Computer Society of Kenya" for which many of you
>> >> > have preferred to lambaste and ignore it.
>> >> >
>> >> > Just a quick clarification Brian, KEPSA allows you to join as an
>> >> > individual
>> >> > person or corporate entity if there is no BMO that represents your
>> >> > interests, your BMO refuses to present your issues or your BMO
>> >> > refuses to
>> >> > join KEPSA. Just for your information, I had the privilege of being
>> >> > part of
>> >> > KEPSA's activities for over 3 years as the unofficial alternative to
>> >> > Evelyn
>> >> > which gives me a more stable foot to stand on than a google search
>> >> > result.
>> >> >
>> >> > If you have an issue with the current office bearers then use your
>> >> > democratic right to replace them, if you have issues with the name
>> >> > then
>> >> > again practice your constitution right and change it, if you full it
>> >> > does
>> >> > not fully represent your interests then define your interests, but
>> >> > before
>> >> > you can do any of this things you first must join and pay your
>> >> > subscriptions
>> >> > BMO - Business "Membership" Organisation.
>> >> >
>> >> > I wish we would all concentrate on two issues that kept being
>> >> > repeated by
>> >> > the 3 men older than me who where on the panel.
>> >> >
>> >> > 1. Stop asking the government to do for us, it will never happen (na
>> >> > omba
>> >> > serikali)
>> >> > 2. Read the new constitution and get up to speed on the new
>> >> > dispensation
>> >> > (we need new laws)
>> >> >
>> >> > All the issues raised at the session are already addressed in the
>> >> > constitution which fortunately cannot be posted as a tweet which
>> >> > means that
>> >> > you need to down load the entire document, I have it on my Kindle
>> >> > (had to
>> >> > mention that), onto those fancy devices we walk around with and read
>> >> > in its
>> >> > entirety.
>> >> >
>> >> > Maybe what we need is a marathon constitution reading forum, after
>> >> > which I
>> >> > am sure we shall appreciate the fact that the playing field has
>> >> > changed and
>> >> > you and I have had responsibility thrust into our faces. The
>> >> > constitution
>> >> > is already being changed as we write and as we tweet our input if not
>> >> > being
>> >> > recorded. Dr. Ndemo kept repeating the issue but as usually many of
>> >> > us
>> >> > where busy in the cloud.
>> >> >
>> >> > For those of you who have an aversion to reading talk to me and I
>> >> > could get
>> >> > you the document in audio version.
>> >> >
>> >> > Regards
>> >> >
>> >> > Robert Yawe
>> >> > KAY System Technologies Ltd
>> >> > Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>> >> > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>> >> > Kenya
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >> > From: Brian Munyao Longwe <
blongwe@gmail.com>
>> >> > To: robert yawe <
robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
>> >> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> >> > Sent: Friday, 9 March 2012, 21:44
>> >> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] 140Friday. . . and I wept
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi all
>> >> >
>> >> > First of all, let me say that this response is NOT targeted at Robert
>> >> > Yawe - though it addresses one of the main issues that he has raised.
>> >> >
>> >> > I have said it here before and I will say it once again. Can we
>> >> > please
>> >> > do our homework before we post scalding remarks?
>> >> >
>> >> > Have we so quickly forgotten the genesis of KEPSA? And for those who
>> >> > were not there when KEPSA was being originated, is it so difficult to
>> >> > simply visit their website and read the first paragraph on their home
>> >> > page? It simply states:
>> >> >
>> >> > "KEPSA is the apex body and single voice of the private sector, with
>> >> > a
>> >> > membership that comprises more than 60 Business Membership
>> >> > Organisations (BMOs) and in excess of 180 corporate organizations –
>> >> > and is still growing. "
>> >> >
>> >> > Essentially - KEPSA's original purpose was to be an umbrella body -
>> >> > allowing various sectoral and professional "Business Membership
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