Thanks Alex i appreciate your response your arguments are valid though On 8/17/07, Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru@yahoo.com> wrote:
Barrack,
My apologies if I appeared to harass the Permanent Secretary. The gist of my, I believe justified, request for information was to know the fate of our Safari Park contributions considering that the expected legislators could not come because of said Parlimentary Procedures.
I needed to know whether we should assume that those contributions we made needed to be repeated should an opportunity to meet with the Committee present itself especially if the ministry could not incorporate them.
I interpret Dr. Ndemo's advice as "they have them, because we gave them but now lobby hard yourselves to ensure your interests are captured"
I am sufficiently pleased with his reply, his voluntary additional information, and await confirmation on how the committee sees best fit to receive any outstanding stakeholders' concerns on the bill as promised today.
Please understand that I consider myself of the issue focussed, not the person, nature and I would seriously err to substitute any clause, error, commission, or omission with "Bitange Ndemo":)
Have a laughly day!
Alex
--- Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Good effort bwana Ndemo, Alex i bet you understand how our legislators operate take it easy on bwana Ndemo, bwana Ps try your level best to ensure that Stakeholder expectations are met, so far i guess you deserve a pat Regards
On 8/16/07, Benjamin Makai <benmakai@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr.Ndemo This information is very necessary and important.
outline to the level or rather phases pertaining
Kindly could you also the same sir.
This gives us the the auditable elements of the
may not be aware of the process and yet they may want to shout loundest..
All is about the welfare of our countr y(personal sentiments and not about who shouts loundest and in some situations or least solutions. ICT is all bout solutions and world wide tested and proven best practices)
Regards
*bitange@jambo.co.ke* wrote:
Dear Alex, I tried to explain how parliament works earlier in
revise the bill here. We have taken the proposals to the committee for consideration.
Luckily today the committee sumoned me to
stakeholder's meeting either on Tuesady or Thursday next week in Mombasa. I shall confirm this to you tomorrow. Any changes now must go through the committee since the bill belongs to parliament. You have this window to make the necessary changes. The safari Park
them but they may decide that they do not want to include them. This is where we need the stakeholders to push.
I hope you do not leave this window of opportunity to pass and blame us later.
Regards
Ndemo.
Dr. Ndemo,
You invited us to Safari Park Hotel and on information and belief, we were coming to meet the Parliament Committee. We understood your at the venue explanation why they could not come.
However,
Would you be in a position to inform stakeholders what to expect of our Safari Park contributions on
Kenya Communications Amendment Bill 2007? i.e. does the ministry have an "updated" version-considerate of expressed concerns? I am made to understand that a Bill's mover (who in this case is the Minister) is allowed to amend it anytime.
This also would not only help us know where our concerns lay but it would also help us take informed engagements with the Energy and Communications Committee.
I request for this information in view of your emailed informative note advising stakeholders on the law making processes, advising on the steps, when and where to engaging parliamentary committees in
process.
Hope to hear from you.
Sincerely,
Alex
--- Brian Longwe wrote:
Thank you very much Bw. Ndemo for this clear, concise and very practical reminder of our legislative process (it's amazing how quickly we forget the stuff we learnt in
school)!
Rgds,
Brian
On Aug 14, 2007, at 1:41 PM, bitange@jambo.co.ke wrote:
Rebecca, I did not want to comment on the Demo but I
the public is being
misled here. What is the reasoning behind the Demo when the Government has made it clear that the issue shall be looked at? We delivered on all promises we made to the stakeholders and
and seek dialog. I think by resorting into mob
bothered to read psychology you risk
eroding the confidence and and trust that we have built over the past view years.
Since we have another bill coming, I have decided to present the lessons learnt (attached) from the Media Bill to avoid such situation in the ICT Bill. It is important that we all understand
legislative
process in Kenya and it is only by making decisions
process for the few whom the week. We cannot parliament. They want to have a proposals are already with the the pri/sec think those who the based on
knowledge that we
can develop a civilized nation.
Regards
Bitange Ndemo.
> in case yhou support journalists... > Hi all. > This is to inform you that we have already notified the police > that we > shall be holding a peaceful procession as indicated in Mbau's > email. We > have also dispatched a letter to the AG asking him or his
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