The parliamentary committee should have left issues that solely deal with the safety of the technology to the independent entity mandated to deal with such issues - the CAK. I do not see what value add will accrue from multiple teams of experts being set up to carry out tests. On Thu, Sep 25, 2014, at 11:58 AM, Bernard Kioko via kictanet wrote: Or when Kenya Posts & Telecommunications prohibited the import and use of computer fax modems…. Then also ….at some point to own a mobile phone you needed to spend about KES250k. These things shall pass….besides, aren’t we peculiar!? From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or. ke] On Behalf Of Brian Munyao Longwe via kictanet Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2014 10:09 AM To: bkioko@bernsoft.com Subject: Re: [kictanet] House team halts Equity Bank's thin-SIM rollout "Assured of the security of the technology" .....throwback to 2001 when KIXP was shutdown based a "national security" red flag that was thrown by Telkom Kenya who felt that their then Jambonet monopoly would be threatened by the exchange point (despite the fact that KIXP at the had nothing to with international traffic and only seeked to keep local traffic local). Get ready for a comedy of errors *sits back with popcorn and 2 liter Fanta* Mblayo On Wednesday, September 24, 2014, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <[1]kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: @ Victor, The heading of this article says the 'house team halts..." while the body of the story has "has asked CA to halt..." It might be semantics but my interpretation of this is that this is a request to CA, and not a directive. Yes? Tell me, does the house team have oversight over regulatory matters? I am looking at KICA 2013 Article 5 on CA's independence: 5A. (1) The Authority shall be independent and free of control by government, political or commercial interests in the exercise of its powers and in the performance of its functions. (2) In fulfilling its mandate, the Authority shall be guided by the national values and principles of governance in Article 10 and the values and principles of public service in Article 232 (1) of the Constitution. What would happen say if CA disregards the House team's demand? Rgds GG _______________________________________________________________ Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 11:54:17 +0100 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Equity Given Go Ahead by CAK From: FastMail WARNING: URL text contains a possible JavaScript attack on your machine. URL disabled. Original URL='javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke ');'. For more information on phishing click [2]here. To: FastMail WARNING: URL text contains a possible JavaScript attack on your machine. URL disabled. Original URL='javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','ggithaiga@hotmail.com');'. For more information on phishing click [3]here. The tables have turned again: House team halts Equity Bank's thin-SIM rollout The National Assembly’s Energy and ICT Committee has asked the Communications Authority (CA) to halt Equity Bank thin-SIM card rollout until it is satisfied of the security of the technology. [4]http://www.nation.co.ke/news/politics/House-team-halts-Equit y-Bank-thin-SIM-rollout/-/1064/2463762/-/2srp37/-/index.html Victor Kapiyo, LL.B ==================================================== “Your attitude, not your aptitude, will determine your altitude” Zig Ziglar On 22 September 2014 18:49, Martin Gicheru via kictanet <FastMail WARNING: URL text contains a possible JavaScript attack on your machine. URL disabled. Original URL='javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke ');'. For more information on phishing click [5]here.> wrote: Safaricom does not necessarily agree to the move but will cooperate while it still needs to. ”We are particularly encouraged that CA has commenced the process of hiring an independent and reputable international firm to conduct a security audit on all SIM cards, and in particular the use of the SIM overlay technology in mobile money transfer services. We therefore implore the CA to fast track the security review and to publish the guidelines in the interests of protecting consumers and financial institutions who will remain vulnerable to the potential risks created by the ‘man-in-the-middle attack’. ” [6]http://techmoran.com/safaricom-remains-adamant-thin-sim-vuln erabilities/ On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Bernard Kioko via kictanet <FastMail WARNING: URL text contains a possible JavaScript attack on your machine. URL disabled. Original URL='javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke ');'. For more information on phishing click [7]here.> wrote: Change is the only permanent thing! -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:FastMail WARNING: URL text contains a possible JavaScript attack on your machine. URL disabled. Original URL='javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kictanet-bounces%2Bbkioko');' . For more information on phishing click [8]here.=FastMail WARNING: URL text contains a possible JavaScript attack on your machine. URL disabled. Original URL='javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.o r.ke');'. For more information on phishing click [9]here.] On Behalf Of Walubengo J via kictanet Sent: Monday, September 22, 2014 6:30 PM To: FastMail WARNING: URL text contains a possible JavaScript attack on your machine. URL disabled. Original URL='javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','bkioko@bernsoft.com');'. For more information on phishing click [10]here. Subject: Re: [kictanet] Equity Given Go Ahead by CAK @Charles, Interesting views. I dont speak for Equity - and am not even a MEMBER (their customer). However, they have the following going for them. 1) they do have their OWN SIM card targetting their 8m banking customers. They can actually make money out their core group of customers using their mobile virtual network (riding on Airtel telco infrastructure i believe). 2) the thin-SIM technology is just a nice option for their 8m customers AND the 20+million Safaricom customers. 3) indeed Safcom can play dirty but I am sure they wont because (a) they can take on Equity challenge and (b) the regulator seems more ready than ever to pounce on them (recall regulator has been "looking" for them over quality issues :-). Remember, this looks like a mobile money battle, but the real deal is the collateral damage it is likely to cause in the voice market because once a Safaricom customer mounts the thin SIM Card and discovers that they can make cheaper calls/sms with it without losing their MPESA functionality...they will actually be having their cake (MPESA) while eating it (making Cheaper calls on the Equity Mobile virtual network). Essentially, Equity is breaking a small gap into the Safaricom defensive wall(MPESA) and once in, even the data-market may eventually be free for all i.e. #checkmate. walu. -------------------------------------------- On Mon, 9/22/14, Charles Kimani via kictanet <FastMail WARNING: URL text contains a possible JavaScript attack on your machine. URL disabled. Original URL='javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke ');'. For more information on phishing click [11]here.> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] Equity Given Go Ahead by CAK To: FastMail WARNING: URL text contains a possible JavaScript attack on your machine. URL disabled. Original URL='javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','jwalu@yahoo.com');'. For more information on phishing click [12]here. Date: Monday, September 22, 2014, 4:44 PM I think the thin sim strategy is brilliant...in theory. However, I am also wondering just how wise it is to place the success of your business model at the mercy of a hostile, powerful and uncooperative business rival. What if - 6 months after launch, for example - Safaricom decide to upgrade all their sim cards (genuinely or otherwise) just when Equity is in the middle of a critical (probably expensive) product rollout? What if Safaricom customer service and dealer/retail channels start advising subscribers who are having issues with their lines that the thin sim is the cause of their problems and show them how to remove it? How will Equity map their processes and logistics with the Safaricom SIM replacement processes? Will Equity subscribers need to remember to make an extra stop at an Equity outlet to have their thin sim re-attached once they do a sim swap? How easy is it to attach these thin sims? We have previously seen smart sabotage tactics bring down SAB Miller ambitions in the Kenyan market. Equity - in my opinion - is giving too much firepower to a determined competitor. It might be cheaper in the long run to just invest in own SIM and take Safaricom head-on. Regards,Charles On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Dennis Kioko via kictanet <FastMail WARNING: URL text contains a possible JavaScript attack on your machine. URL disabled. Original URL='javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke ');'. For more information on phishing click [13]here.> wrote: Meanwhile, I did get the Equitel SIM Card (haven't seen the infamous Thin SIM). So far, here's my experience with the same. [14]http://www.infotake.co.ke/2014/09/how-does-equity-ban ks-equitel-work.h tml On 22 September 2014 16:11, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <FastMail WARNING: URL text contains a possible JavaScript attack on your machine. URL disabled. Original URL='javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke ');'. For more information on phishing click [15]here.> wrote: Sometimes diversification leads to loss of focus. Interesting discussions but let us see if this scenario will change some of this Principles that have evolved over time. Best Regards On Mon, Sep 22, 2014 at 3:56 PM, Bernard Kioko via kictanet <FastMail WARNING: URL text contains a possible JavaScript attack on your machine. URL disabled. Original URL='javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke ');'. For more information on phishing click [16]here.> wrote: I have noted media reports indicating Equity has been granted go-ahead by CAK to operate with Thin-Sim cards. Game changing I suppose. This e-mail and any attachments may contain information that is confidential, legally privileged and protected by law and is intended for the sole use of the named recipient(s). Any unauthorized review, use, or disclosure or distribution is prohibited. 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