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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 09:34:52 +0300
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Have we failed the nation yet again?
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Yes we have failed the nation because we are all human beings and nothing even that technology we pride in is perfect. Its only God who sees peoples? hearts, whose wisdom is foolproof.

1 Corinthians 1:20:  <http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/1.htm> Christ the Wisdom and Power of God
? <http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/1-19.htm> 19For it is written, "I WILL DESTROY THE WISDOM OF THE WISE, AND THE CLEVERNESS OF THE CLEVER I WILL SET ASIDE."  <http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/1-20.htm> 20Where is the wise man? Where is the scribe? Where is the debater of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of the world?  <http://biblehub.com/1_corinthians/1-21.htm> 21For since in the wisdom of God the world through its wisdom did not come to know God, God was well-pleased through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.?



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From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+info=amwik.org@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Wambui Kamuiru
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 9:16 AM
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Have we failed the nation yet again?



Yawe,
That is a loaded question that may elicit varied responses.
1. Is the industry responsible for the gadgets used to scan people as they enter Malls and such like places?
2. What kind of technology is hence required to enhance the efficacy of the metal detectors? I have heard that they only detect such things as car keys...?
3. Would a full body scanner such as those found in airports suffice?
4. Can the industry pass legislation requiring all buildings have these body scanners?
5. In the Westgate case (condolences to all affected), what technology can be used in the event that gunmen walk in shooting???

Food for thought

On 23 Sep 2013 08:31, "robert yawe" <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

Hi,

As we console all those who where affected by the happenings at the Westgate Mall over the weekend do we remain blameless as an industry?

Regards





Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya



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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 09:50:40 +0300
From: Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>
To: Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com>
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Have we failed the nation yet again?
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We cannot beat ourselves too much. This disasters happen world over.
Just last week, a gunman opened fire at the Washington Navy yard
killing 12people. We see attacks in Israel, Nigeria, and India.

What might have failed us is intelligence agencies. Since Kenya has
tight gun and small weapons control than the developed world, it
should be hard to transport heavy weapons all the way to Westlands.
But we have seen previously crooks bribe their way through road blocks
in the Garissa Nairobi highway which is the major conduit for weapons.
>From the organisation of the Westgate gang, you can imagine the kind
of funding they had to compromise our security systems.

The solution is not full metal detectors (which by the way cannot stop
any gunman), but covert operations to wipe out radical groups.

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Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2013 00:11:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Lucy Kimani <lkimani@yahoo.com>
To: Bitange Ndemo <bitange@jambo.co.ke>
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Daktari,
?
Even as I pray for the deceased and wish a quick recovery to the injured, I am afraid I have to own up to being one of those that are furious and full of negative thought.? Where Children are concerned especially, the?mother instinct kicks in, and my heart is way too heavy...?This is day 3 have the children?been fed considering those merciless killers?? I dont know, and it is destressing, I cant get the image of that father with a two year old and wife?inside the mall out of my?mind...
?
LK?


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 From: Bitange Ndemo <bitange@jambo.co.ke>
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Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 7:35 AM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Is everyone okay?


Eric,
I am sorry for what has happened to our Ghanaian brothers.? News comes in
in bits and every bit of it angers and leads to bitterness.? I pray that
God will help us forgive these senseless killers.

I just came across a quote from Anne Frank which is descriptive and so
wise for the moment.? She writes:? 'It really is a wonder that I have not
dropped all my ideals,because they seem so absurd and impossible to carry
out.? Yet I keep them because in spite of everything I still believe that
people are really good at heart? I simply can't build up my hopes on a
foundation consisting of confusion, misery, and death. I see the world
gradually being turned into a wilderness, I hear the ever approaching
thunder, which will destroy us too, I can feel the sufferings of millions
and yet, if I look up to the heavens, I think that it will all come right,
that this cruelty too will end, and that peace and tranquility will return
agaiin.'

She was only 16 when she died, but she had such a beautiful commitment to
hope.

This morning a friend wrote to me and she said.? There has been such a
negativity among good people in discussions that all of this negative
energy has to have an effect on people who are really confused and opt for
violence.? I was heartened to hear the latest comments of the Pope.? Every
bit helps.

God bless us all.


Ndemo.


> Among the dead was renowned Ghanaian poet and statesmen Kofi Awoonor.
> Ghanaian poet Awoonor, 78, who was once his country's representative to
> the United Nations, was killed while shopping with his son, who was
> injured in the attack, Ghanaian officials said......very sad but the
> forces of evil would not prevail.
>
> Eric here
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 22, 2013, at 21:41, Bitange Ndemo <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
>
>> Warigia,
>> We lost a CCK director, Mr. Simani in the tragedy.? Very sad to have
>> lost
>> a great Lawyer.
>>
>>
>> Ndemo.
>>
>>
>>
>>> Just seeing if all kictanet members are okay in Westgate shooting,
>>> especially alice, who I know goes there often.
>>>
>>> Rigia
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