It's still not comforting because government wants to define an ICT practitioner in a certain way. Ostensibly to lock out competition using some criteria or another.
Indeed can be argued as a telling sign of impending "government by cartel".
Thank you Paul,
But free speech is free speech. There is no paranoia here. Only freedom of expression.
On 2 Dec 2016 4:50 p.m., "Paul Korir via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Fellow Listers,
(Please read through until the end before reacting.)It is unfortunate that this issue has arisen before the dust from the ICT Practioners Bill has settled. There are a lot of pent up emotions (and rightly so) associated with confronting policy corruption. This has not only affected ICT but other fields (I seem to be the only one angered by some of the sections of the Science, Technology and Innovation Act).
It is also unfortunate that that the subject of this thread is misleading or incomplete at best and that the journalist who penned this piece did not take the time to dissect the issues. For example, there is no explicit statement that this applies only to government expenditure and the reference at the end is vague (“…that the government has an interest in.”)
Nevertheless, government agencies have a duty to protect the public’s interests in delivering service to the people. In this case, the issue is the use of public funds (not private capital) in procuring government contracts and the ICTA is proposing regulation to this end. Please remember that the mandate of ICTA is to serve the government and not the private sector.
“The Authority is tasked with rationalising and streamlining the management of all Government of Kenya ICT functions.” (from http://www.icta.go.ke/ict-auth
ority/ ).To the best of my understanding (and the functions of the ICTA) the statement by the CEO have no bearing on private procurement and application of ICT to private business. This is not a move to regulate the ICT sector but to secure the procurement of ICT services in government functions. In other words, quacks are those who are stealing public funds by masquerading as ICT professionals. Now, who would be opposed to that?
I think paranoia is beginning to get the better of us…
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1. Re: ICT Authority to weed out quacks (Ahmed Mohamed Maawy)
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Fellows,
We will be the 1st market in the history of the world to kill innovation by
regulating it.
According to Wikipedia *Innovation* is defined simply as a "*new idea,
device, or method*". However, innovation is often also viewed as the
*application
of better solutions that meet new requirements, unarticulated needs*, or
existing market needs. This is accomplished through more-effective
products, processes, services, technologies, or business models that are
readily available to markets, governments and society. The term
"innovation" can be defined as something original and more effective and,
as a consequence, new, that "breaks into" the market or society. It is
related to, but not the same as, invention.
If Innovation is related to invention. Who in the world ever invented
anything under a very strict regulatory framework ?? Isn't it that we
constantly talk about people who invented new things to break the norm?
(including status quo in a society hell bent to set norms and standards to
tell people like Thomas Edisson that he can't do a lightbulb and the Wright
Brothers that they can't fly?)
Again, And what school ever taught an inventor to invent anything?
The kid in Maasai Mara who invented a technology to scare away lions (and
got TV airtime just because someone discovered him with a mindset outside
the education system) - did he ever go to school?
Can we go on giving countless statements on this?
On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 3:30 PM, Collins Areba via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:Thank you Andrew: a true geriatric in this world. (I did my fair share of
fortran 77 btw)
I think the problem is clear: irregular tendering, leading in quacks being
awarded tenders for one reason or another at the expense of legitimately
qualified suppliers. Now, if you ask me, Thats the domain of Public
Procurements Oversight Authority.
Maybe the said parties should seek representation in the said authority,
or maybe we should seek a common "ICT practitioners" position or checklist
for the PPPOA to consider when setting rules.
My 2 cents.
On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Kevin Kamonye via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:My ideal scenario as regards to post secondary school;
1. Enroll for a program like NYS/ Police/ Military for at least 1 year to
learn essential life skills.
2. Continue serving or get into the job market for at least 2 years doing
some paid internship/apprenticeship (savings scheme for school fees )
3. Go for Undergraduate studies - Dip/Bachelor (part-time/ distance
learning for non-eng. courses)
4. Back to work - start of specialisation for at least 5 years
5. Masters etc. but after a very thorough interviewing/ career review
process before being enrolled to any program
These certifications are in some ways hurting the industry. But I guess
they are a necessary evil as the job market is flooded with people who can
get the job done.
Perhaps we should have a common framework that acts as a lifetime
Continuous Assesment Test (CAT) for every sector of the industry that is
publicly and commonly administered by selected panels for every region.
Like a LinkedIN where endorsements for skills actually mean something.
As for me, the industry I have been trying to break into to start my
specialisation (Cyber Security OPs) seems to have a thing for seeing the
entire alphabet on your CV :) This quack has thrown in the towel and am
back at school (actually started my end of semester exams today).
Kevin
On 2 December 2016 at 14:35, JImmy Gitonga via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:Wow Andrew,
It seems that is everyone's journey here until "recently" when Computer
Science became a course in our universities. I am a "quack" as much as you
are.
I loved the story and all the best.
So, Listers, this is my take. The problem is that the government has
allowed tenderpreneurs to flourish in every sector, and the experts in the
government, who ought to supervise, are compromised for various reasons.
We are just feeling the heat now because we are in the way of the rent
seekers. Look at our mechanical engineering sector and see the chaos caused
by "regulation".
Regards
Jimmy Gitonga
*Web and Motion*
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Hi All,
I wade into this debate with a great degree of caution, but at the same
time I feel it would be amiss not to tell my own story ? and let you judge
my stance from that.
When I was 12 years old, living in South Africa, I walked door to door
at every computer shop in the town I lived in, begging for a chance to help
out in the stores ? I didn?t want money ? I wanted to be near the
machines. There was a guy, interestingly he shared my first name, and
decided he?d give me a chance, and so at 12 years old I started showing up
on Saturdays and installing dos on machines and installing windows 3.1 and
hanging around their workshop. By the time I was 13, I was putting
together machines for them. They were even kind enough to give me the
equivalent of 140 KSH for a Saturday morning.
Somewhere along the way, I got hold of a copy of turbo pascal and
begged pleaded and borrowed some manuals and taught myself how to program,
first in pascal, and then in assembler. By the time I was 16, I was then
faced with a choice. I could stick with high school, finish, leave at the
same time as everyone else, go to universities, spend years getting a
degree, and then enter the job market at the same time as all my school
friends. Or, due to the age of the industry and how new it was where I was
growing up, I could leave school, get a job, and get a 2 and a half year
experience head start on everyone I was at school with. I made my choice,
and in around March, 3 months into grade 10, I clearly remember getting up
in the middle of science class, and walking out. I never went back.
By the time I left though, I had already organized myself a job,
relying on the experience I had working in computer stores for the previous
3 and a half odd years, and relying on the fact that I could already
program. So, I got on a bus, at age 16, travelled a thousand kilometres
down to Cape Town and started my working life. Over the next few years, I
worked my ass off, earned just enough money to keep me afloat, and
eventually started my own IT security company, got defrauded, went broke as
a result, got up, and started again. Eventually ending up working for the
University of Cape Town in their IT department. While there I started
moonlighting for TENET (the South African academic network), and eventually
ended up as their CTO where I was for 6 years. After leaving there and
doing a whole bunch of contracting (primarily for various universities), I
took a contract with Liquid which eventually ended up becoming permanent
and I ended up where I am today, in a senior position building networks
across the continent.
The point of this story is ? there are individuals out there who have
chosen a different route ? I am not alone in the path I took, and I am not
special, I was not born to wealth and honestly I don?t think I could have
afforded to go to University anyway ? my parents certainly didn?t have the
money to pay for it, nor was I born with insane brain power, I merely chose
to find my own path and work hard to reach the heights I have. And in all
of this ? I fail to see why any system should penalize people such as
myself, and indirectly penalize the people who I could share my knowledge
and experience with. I fail to see why a qualification actually matters if
someone can *prove* they can do the job ? and do it well, with an equal
amount of passion, drive and skill, however it was acquired.
Obviously, this post is written from an intensely personal perspective,
but I argue that there are many who shared the path I chose to walk, and I
believe that anything that removes the ability of these people to
contribute to society and to our industry, is unfair, dangerous and against
the interests of the industry as a whole.
I know that I am PROUD to work in this industry, it is with pride that
I stand among my colleagues, both Kenyan and otherwise, both certified and
non-certified, and I just want the opportunity to continue the work I have
dedicated the last 21 years of my life to and continue to build this
industry and be able to contribute.
Just my thoughts
Andrew
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To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com >
Cc: Dorcas Muthoni <dmuthoni@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks
Unfortunately, judging from my experience, both in public and private
sector, HR and top IT management do indeed either get it wrong, lack
ability or sometimes objectivity while onboarding vendors or staff.
In which case, industry professionals can help in defining a criteria
for all. This of course should also be shared with tertiary institutions
and universities.
As we know, new professions are being defined daily. Some core
fundamentals remain the same.
On Dec 2, 2016 11:27 AM, "Francis Nderitu via kictanet" <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet .or.ke >>
wrote:
In my own view this kind of vetting they are asking for should be
institutional but not individual - which is already happening naturally.
Does Company A have the capacity to offer service XYZ? That kind of
approach could be helpful, just like in the construction industry, diffrent
companies have diffrent clearance level.
On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 11:03 AM, Nelson J kwaje via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet .or.ke >>
wrote:
@James,
I like how people are open minded about ICT professional. it is okay
to be a drop out, it is okay to not have any qualifications, just have
passion and be good at what you do.
Doctors and Pilots used to be treated the same way. few regulations,
few standards and no regularity body until we realized that our lives
depends on these people and their mistakes can be catastrophic.
The ICT Industry is heading in the same direction. our errors are
starting to cause some serious damages and the society is right when it
demands some yardstick to know who is who.
Will you fly with an uncertified pilot ?
Can you go to the operating theater with a passionate and committed
doctor but no certificate ?
Why will you accept anyone to mange the system for your bank,
hospital, airport and even national security.
Cheers
Nelson
On 02/12/2016 10:42 WD, James Muendo wrote:
Nelson,
"we can not sit and and watch as the industry gets diluted in the name
of innovation and disruption."
I think what you have quoted there is what drives the profession and
the industry at large. What you are suggesting is we curb creativity of
people who seek to curb a niche out of the huge industry. As Ahmed said,
this is not like professions, like, being a doctor or a lawyer that have a
pre-set set of standards. If anything, the industry thrives on its dynamic
nature, which leads to disruption and innovation.
On that I beg to disagree with you. Also, in terms of standards, if we
look outside .KE, what other country/town has ICT standards?
Am with Ngigi in this one, we need to separate business from
profession. The tricky bit, would be, what criteria will you use to do so.
Regards,
On 2 December 2016 at 10:28, Nelson J kwaje via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet .or.ke >>
wrote:
Let us face it, the ICT Industry has a problem with standards,
ambiguity rules the ICT Industry in Kenya. the words below can have as
many meanings as the are ICT professionals
* Cloud Solution
* Software Architect
* Software Developer
* IoT
* Web APP
* and many other
we can not sit and and watch as the industry gets diluted in the name
of innovation and disruption.
On 02/12/2016 10:12 WD, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet wrote:
My point is, chaos are eminent in the industry. Is it what we want..
NO.
Then, let's agree on the criteria. ICT Authority is part of the
KICTANET community, let's engage them, instead of shooting in your defense.
Let's get a constructive multi-stakeholder engagement.
I am afraid that having a few highly opinionated people rule mailing
lists stalls multi-stakeholder participation.
I hope that the ICT Authority is listening somewhere.
On Dec 2, 2016 10:00 AM, "Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet" <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet .or.ke >>
wrote:
Its not really about why people feel insecure. Its about what policy is
meant to do. Why? Technologists are not doctors or lawyers.
With all due respect. What does the education system offer as a
yardstick for competence? Most of us got jobs before we even graduated
school. And we went on to work for projects and institutions that went on
to win Awards in the international arena.
You see, IT is not about being a Doctor or being a Lawyer (where theory
is a factor). IT is an operational field. IT, more than any other field -
is based on Talent. Not much on Knowledge. This is why we have so many
people out of Uni looking for Internships that they can not find. In a
market where the dynamics are governed by people who did not even do that
degree - to drive technical jobs.
And yes, we have several CEOs in several companies who (and some of
them entrepreneur their own way through) did not even do a BCom at the
least. Some of them did not even see an higher learning institution.
We need to understand that the market dynamics are shifting. Schools in
developing are evolving. Why? Because Technology has changed the education
field. The education field is not changing technology. Apologies if we
believe so.
Just my two cents.
On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:39 AM, Collins Areba via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet .or.ke >>
wrote:
@Dorcas.
Before we even get to answering why many people are insecure about the
discussion, I would point to the more obvious question. What are the
protagonists trying to do? what are they trying to solve? Unfortunately
thus far, It is not clear. What is in need of regulation? and why does it
need to be regulated? is this regulation for regulation's sake?
I did mention yesterday that from my point of view, Regulation makes
sense only where there is a limited resource, shared by many, which left
without regulation would result in disorder and "law of the jungle". Which
ICT component is this that needs to be streamlined to prevent it from
spiralling out of control?
From where I sit, It feels like a bunch of individuals feel
shortchanged about the time, effort and money they spent in learning "the
science" only to come out here and find the arena flattened by the same
technology. It feels like "the bill" which seeks to assign non existent
value to those that feel some level of entitlement to that "ict
professional" title purely on the basis of having done ICT formally.
I stand corrected.
On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:02 AM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet .or.ke >>
wrote:
Why are so many people insecure about this topic.
Can a bank CEO act as the principal legal officer of a bank? Why not?
Which Innovators are these people are referring to? As far as I know,
most of the referenced global innovators dropped out of some computer
science programs and employ thousands of highly qualified CS and
engineering graduates.
I don't think starting a box-pushing or software license reselling
entity coupled with hiring a few technicians can turn anyone into a domain
professional. Let's get this straight and boldly address the true issues
at hand.
Obviously, this loose arrangement is leading to the proliferation of
extreme tender-prenuership.
Can anyone point me to potential local Bill Gates, Larry Page or Mark
Mark Zuckerberg. We can't use such example to complicate this discussion.
If anything, we should be providing a friendly environment those with
money and great experience invest in highly scalable startups.
Nothing bars anyone who falls short of an agreed criteria from working
on it.
Obviously, we cannot water down such an important topic.
On Dec 1, 2016 10:28 PM, "Alfred Kinyua via kictanet" <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet .or.ke >>
wrote:
Two things stand out, concerning ICT Authority.
1. Conformance of set standards (raising the bar).
2. locking out unqualified personnel, where government has interests .
This is not a trivial issue, because one might be qualified but
incompetent (theorists) / unsitable, while the opposite might be true,
unqualufied but competent/suitable, this is true for ICT realtad mattets.
Personally I thing further probing is required.
On Dec 1, 2016 22:01, "Beryl Aidi via kictanet" <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet .or.ke >>
wrote:
Hi All,
Law and policy seldom exist in a vacuum. Does anyone know anywhere in
the world where the kind of regulation or ICT standards being anticipated
to be used to weed out quacks have been used successfully? Successfully
here being key, which means no victimization of those without any
certifications that may exist; startups; or those just playing around and
happen to stumble on something that may end up taking the world by storm;
and by no means a way to stifle internet freedoms. Anyone knows where such
a model exists? My two cents.
Beryl Aidi
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 9:41 PM, Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet .or.ke >>
wrote:
In summary... ICT is "...A coalition of The Willing..."
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies
www.at.co.ke<http://www.at.co.ke >
From: Collins Areba via kictanet
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2016 9:30 PM
To: Ngigi Waithaka
Reply To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Cc: Collins Areba; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICT Authority to weed out quacks
Exactly!
ICT is a disruptive sector. It is unfortunate when we attempt to define
it as one would engineering, or architecture, or survey. The action -
reaction - feedback - correction continum time wise is soo tiny. A decision
for instance in some of these association, say which colour to paint a wall
might take four months.
I would still ask, what is the problem we are trying to solve? If this
can be defined we should be in a position to find solutions collectively.
On 1 Dec 2016 21:12, "Mwendwa Kivuva" <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com<m
ailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com >> wrote:
The said procurement quacks are like Josephine Kabura. But they are not
really quacks because they work as conduits for their masters in high
places.
If it was possible to weed out "quacks" from the industry, the said
masters would still use the "professionals" to commit heinous crimes.
Show me major scandals in Kenya conducted by quacks and I will show you
a liar. Goldenberg, Anglo-leasing, euro bond...
On Dec 1, 2016 7:36 PM, "Collins Areba via kictanet" <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet .or.ke >>
wrote:
I believe regulation should only be present where there is a limited,
shared resource that might be subject to abuse. Short of having a set of
rules: don't test an EMP in a built up area, don't access government
servers even if their passwords are admin, admin. Don't give the
president's number on twitter, etc etc etc. That is progressive legislation.
On 1 Dec 2016 18:24, "Collins Areba" <arebacollins@gmail.com<mailto:
arebacollins@gmail.com>> wrote:
Dorcas: show me the chaos. Then we discuss order.
On 1 Dec 2016 18:17, "James Muendo" <james@muendo.co.ke<mailto:jam
es@muendo.co.ke>> wrote:
Collins,
+1
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On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 6:15 PM +0300, "Collins Areba via kictanet" <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet .or.ke >>
wrote:
Personally I seek examples of the damage done by the said quacks that
professional institutions haven't done. The distinct point of departure
which will show the distinct difference so as to justify regulation.
On 1 Dec 2016 17:32, "waudo siganga via kictanet" <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet .or.ke >>
wrote:
Kivuva, you forgot Zuckerberg.
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet wrote:
College drop outs who rule the world.
Michael Saul Dell, William Henry ?Bill? Gates iii, Paul Gardner Allen,
Lawrence Joseph Ellison, Stephen ?Woz? Wozniak, Steven Paul Jobs, Robert
Edward ?Ted? Turner iii
http://lord.me.ke/college-dropouts-who-rule-the-world/
I wonder who among those would be considered an ICT pro in Kenya.
______________________
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On 1 December 2016 at 12:03, Ali Hussein via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet .or.ke >>
wrote:
The real important question has not been answered. Not since the term
ICT started being used.
WHO IS AN ICT PRACTITIONER?
And who is this WATCHDOG who will abrogate himself/herself the role of
GateKeeper and RentSeeker?
Ali Hussein
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Hussein & Associates
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On 1 Dec 2016, at 10:51 AM, Athar Ahmad Bhatti via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet .or.ke >>
wrote:
Brian they will implant a chip in your brain and track your IQ to see
whether you are fit for IT. Whereas the millennial generation will lose
most as they are hands on.
Athar Ahmad Bhatti
+254726488311 <+254%20726%20488311><tel:+254%20726%20488311>
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:43 AM +0300, "Brian Muhia via kictanet" <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet .or.ke >>
wrote:
This is only to be applied to people trying to do contract jobs for the
government, right?
On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:27 AM WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet .or.ke >>
wrote:
Blessed Thursday!
Might the sector be getting its shape?
Private schooling started as an innovative approach to education - now
we even have more innovative home schooling and best practice approaches.
Healthcare etc
Who has helped to weed out quacks proactively in most instances - it is
the industry associations working with the governments. An angle to borrow
from.
"....He said the authority will in the next couple of weeks launch ICT
standards where every professional in the field seeking to serve public
service must comply.
?One of the things which we are doing very soon in the next couple of
weeks, is that we shall be launching ICT standard, these are ICT national
standards and we plan on having them effective from first of January and
based on that vendors will have to comply with the standards,? said the
CEO, adding that those who will not comply to the standards will be
blacklisted..."
How might the players engage in the discourse to give it shape while
keep its jelly-nature?
Be blessed.
Regards/Wangari
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Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are
Restored Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of
God on Earth".
On Thursday, 1 December 2016, 8:43, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet <
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regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
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