Walu,
As one of the people entrusted with imparting knowledge to young minds I would be more comfortable if you would give us a detailed and factually accurate analysis of the issues that went wrong and also how we can mitigated against a 2 repeat. believe if you gave this assignment to those pure minds at the University they will be more objective than any of us who have current or future vested interests and therefore tend to be conservative with the truth.
Just to digress, it was actually a University student who noted the flows in Enron's account methods yet they had been verified by the top audit firms, investment analysts, the SEC and thousands of other experts. To a student 1 + 1 = 2 but to be and you the answer is whatever the person writing the cheque wants it be be thus our clouded minds as
relates to this issue.
Sometimes too much technology can be the problem, the parties need to have trustworthy agents who have more than a fleeting relationship with the party so that they are able to vet the information being transmitted. Parties which for 4 years 11 months and 30 days have a staff count of 10 suddenly balloon to over 50,000 with the additional personal being temporary staff cannot sort out the verification issue even if the results where to be etched in stone.
What the parties needed was to have the agents take a picture of the signed form 32, 34, 36 and 99 and transmit the same to the party head quarters, in the case of the concluded elections there would have been 8 copies of the presidential election forms stored in 8 different locations. This was not done by any of the parties which is why when preparing their plaint they had to go and get copies from the IEBC whose accuracy they could not verify as they
where comparing the same document against itself and trying to base the case in hearsay from the uncommitted and unpaid agents.
Walu, we all know that automating a broken manual process does not fix it just makes it more difficult to resolve problems when they arise.
Regards
Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>
To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
Cc:
"dongondi@iebc.or.ke" <dongondi@iebc.or.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Tuesday, 2 April 2013, 18:34
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Opinion Technology, transparency, and the Kenyan general election of 2013
Yawe,
The thing "alleged" to have been multiplying results by 8 is not the Results Transmission System but as you rightly put it, it may have been the electronic tallying and/or display system. One would never know these things in the absence of an independent IS-Audit.
The Results Transmission System is made up of a special mobile phone that
would sit at the polling station and used by the presiding officer to simply and immediately "sms" the Results preferably into some IEBC database servers. The tallying and display system would then pick these values and do whatever it needs to do with them BUT at least the previously "smsed" election results would be intact and easily available to be cross-checked/verified against the manual forms 34, whenever they arrive. At the moment, these forms34 could only be cross-checked against themselves in terms of have all or most of the agents signed them? If yes, results accepted and everyone is happy.
So my hype is that in 2017/18,
we shall be happier if we raise the standards and say, are forms34 signed? YES, and secondly, does the content on form34 match the content in the results database as earlier transmitted? If YES, then everyone should be happier and those defeated concede and spare the country the drama and anxiety that goes with petitions.
walu
meanwhile: just noting some interesting dimension from Aquinas of Lantech. Looks like the human-aspect was much more tragic than the tech-aspect?.
From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
To: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>
Cc: "dongondi@iebc.or.ke" <dongondi@iebc.or.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2013 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Opinion Technology, transparency, and the Kenyan general election of 2013
Walu,
Why are you being
conservative with the truth, the electronic tallying system you are hyping was multiplying the spoilt votes by a factor, I believe, of 8.
If we have no way to audit and vet an electronic system it becomes a million times worse than a manual system, at least we had the manual documents to fall back to.
Please note that even though the CJ was carrying a xPAD he still kept reading from printed paper.
Regards
PS. The next 100 million that KICT Board decides to spend on competitions should be for electronic voter registration, voter verification and electronic tallying systems, we do not need a replacement for mPesa as it works just fine for our basic requirements.
Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O
Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>
To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: "dongondi@iebc.or.ke" <dongondi@iebc.or.ke>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Tuesday, 2 April 2013, 13:00
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Opinion Technology, transparency, and the Kenyan general election of 2013
@Mwale,
All am saying is that the manual system - with all its legal backing - is prone to errors and loopholes as outlined in my earlier submission. A parallel system- the Results Transmission System is would greatly compliment this manual system (not replace it) and would have gone a long way in closing down loopholes while increasing the acceptability of the results by the losers. The risks outlined are purely from an Information Systems Audit perspective and am sure Dismas Ongondi, the IT
Director @IEBC who is also a Certified Info Systems Auditor will agree with most of them.
In other words, If we decide to go to the 2017/18 elections with this newfound and increased belief in our manual electral systems, I think we as an ICT community, will be setting up this country to unnecessary disputes that may well have been avoided - simply by adopting and using information systems already provided for in our legislation and procured by our hard-earned taxpayers money.
On a lighter note @Brian,
All marriages have the same level of risk - whether forced or willingly enjoined. Indeed forced marriage in most African and Asian cultures tended to last longer than these modern(westernized) marriages that are quickly and willingly enacted :-). So forced or not, coalitions of whatever origin must have a deliberate program to manage competing expectations for the sake of a stable government that all Kenyans deserve.
walu.
nb: Meanwhile at the risk of being arrested by Dr. Ndemo and his cyberteam (for hate-speech) am reliably informed that the following babies born last week are looking forward to changing their names. They include Amicus Onyango, Verdict-ine Kitili, Lacuna Achieng and Prima-facie Wafula :-)
From: Jotham Kilimo Mwale <jokilimo@yahoo.com>
To: jwalu@yahoo.com
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 7:03 PM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Opinion Technology, transparency, and the Kenyan general election of 2013
@Brian - well said in your response to @Walu and also in the article. Ours is a manual voting system, and in 2013 some processes (voter registration and identification, results transmission and tallying) were enhanced (not replaced) by deploying technology. This
technology failed (voter identification and RTS) on voting day thus removing the enhancement but, in my opinion, not affecting the integrity of the manual voting system. Others saw it differently, hence the petitions. Detailed Supreme Court judgement may shed light on this.
@ Muraya - the high voter turn out in 2013 can be attributed to several factors, chief among them that it was a fresh register compiled only 3 months to the election. Chances are the people who registered intended to vote and even if one accounts for natural attrition, chances of well over 90% turnout should not raise any eyebrows. This was not the situation in 2002, 2007 and
2010 when an old register was updated but the dead over the years were never/rarely removed.
Jotham
From: S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com>
To: jokilimo@yahoo.com
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Sunday, March 31, 2013 3:56 PM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Opinion Technology, transparency, and the Kenyan general election of 2013
Even as conspiracy theories (continue to)
abound, let us note age old wisdom stating:
"Every matter/case must be established by two or three witnesses"
Over 3 elections/witnesses exist as to how many votes were probably cast on March 4th, 2013.
Looking at Nairobi votes, (i) the presidential, (ii) governor and (iii) senator -- total votes cast were over 1.3 million (over 72% voter turnout) in all 3 races.
If voter turnout in Nairobi has averaged 50% in past elections (2002, 2007, 2010 - referendum), this was an over 40% increase....
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