@ Wash, Let me declare that i am not holding brief for KeNIC even though my work involves promoting ccTLDs across the African continent at www.aftld.org. I wanted us to have a sober and informed conversation as is the case now, you may also notice that i requested that for a statement on the ecitizen downtime so that we dont cast aspersions where there are genuine challenges. What we are debating happens a lot beyond the borders hence my call for a sober and informed conversation on the same whilst protecting the privacy of innocent customers whose details are being thrown around. I hope that clarifies my stand. On 26 Jan 2018 15:25, "Odhiambo Washington" <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote:
@Barrack,
Are you contracted as an attorney for KeNIC? The tone of your response seems to castigate some listers whereas this is a forum where people are free to air their opinions freely, unless that changed without my knowledge. Secondly, I think you are wrong to come to the defense of KeNIC. They are capable of doing that themselves. On personal data being passed around, I think it's better to be open about what someone alleges. If anyone feels offended, they can seek legal redress.
Just my rebuke of your stand :-)
Now that that is off my chest, I think this statement by KeNIC has been concocted. It was done on 24th but could not be released until 26th. It comes out strongly in defense of their staff as not being capable of impropriety. That is subject to interrogation by listers who believe that there has been some impropriety in the process.
I am still reading the statement, and need to read the previous one again, alongside the one that contains the allegations.
I have seen this in the statement released today: "S*everal domains attracted higher amounts with NI.KE <http://NI.KE> attracting up to KES 1,000,0000,038.*" - I am wondering whether this is a typo or some misplaced comma or zero....
On 26 January 2018 at 08:40, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Colleagues,
Many thanks Abdalla for the detailed response to the issues raised. On a separate note i find it interesting that someone is circulating a document with personal data and using it as a dossier and we don't have a problem forwading the same even though it is full of allegations. I think this is very wrong and should be stopped. Whenever we have genuine concerns, we should be civil enough to respect personal data in cases where it is included in the dossiers, let us not forget that some of the data may belong to customers across the border.
I am also hopeful that we will get a similar detailed response on the downtime affecting e-citizen.
Best Regards
On Fri, Jan 26, 2018 at 8:20 AM, Abdalla via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Listers,
Attached, please find the official response from KeNIC. This attachment needs to be read alongside the statement issued on 19th January 2018, on this list.
Thank you.
Kind regards,
Abdalla Omari. *Chief Executive Officer*
On Jan 24, 2018, at 3:23 PM, Sidney Ochieng <sidney.ochieng@gmail.com> wrote:
Look forward to reading it. You should consider circulating it widely as this PDF is been shared in other forums as well
On 24 January 2018 at 15:06, ceo via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dear Sidney,
I have read your email.
I am preparing a detailed response to the allegations you have raised.
As Barrack has stated, it seems you have been misinformed on how the process conducted.
Thank you.
Regards,
Abdalla
On Jan 24, 2018 2:03 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Hi Sidney,
There is a lot of misinformation and disinformation regarding this
issue. I have been involved in such processes locally and across the border and most often this is the outcome of domain auction processes especially where premium domains are concerned. As is the case in the domain name industry, software is used to conduct auctions once the necessary policies have been put in place. Auctions such as these ellicit global interest including mischievous characters who are a handfull to deal with from a policy and technical perspective. Even the most advanced and technically equipped companies around the world are caught flatfooted from time to time.
I would suggest that we debate the issue based on facts and not
insinuations. Let us also be wary of sour grapes.
Best Regards
On Wed, Jan 24, 2018 at 1:27 PM, Sidney Ochieng (princelySid) via
kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Listers, So remember when the domain name system went down? Allegedly there
was something untoward happening... KENIC has a lot to answer for
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