I think fencing is a start because eventually after we put up expensive equipment and data there .. they need to be protected. Likewise any construction taking place will require protection from thieves and constructors protected from wild animals. <br>
<br>The &quot;wired convention&quot; is a very good idea but it will need to be protected for us to hold a brainstorm  there. Personally, I don&#39;t think I can brainstorm effectively when lions are roaming free in the convention...<br>
<br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 15 April 2010 19:56, robert yawe <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div><div style="font-family: &#39;times new roman&#39;,&#39;new york&#39;,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><div></div><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div><div>I need to seriously understand the rational behind fencing 5,000 acres of land unless PS Ndemo has decided to effect his threat to turn the plot into a cattle holding ground because of the bickering by the politicians from the area and that the park is officially moved to Thika.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Fencing is a barbaric way of demarcation, its similar to having ones wife or daughters wear a chastity belt, you utilise institutions to secure land rights or any other rights and not physical barriers.  </div>
<div><br></div><div>I believe the government could find better use of the money, the rest is wastage of the taxes, the same amount could be used to setup a wired convention centre where we could go to brainstorm the future of the
 park and also to indicate to prospective local and foreign investors (in that order) that we have begun the journey.  Even the Minister for Lands, Hon. Orengo, clear indicated that the fencing of a plot and the sinking of a pit latrine does not constitute development.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Fencing Malili does not constitute development, so lets make better use of those funds.</div><div><br></div><div>REgards</div><div class="im"><div><br> </div>Robert Yawe<br>KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>
Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>Kenya<br><br></div><div>Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696<div><br></div><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;"><br><div style="font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif; font-size: 12pt;">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Land encroachment, private developers, squatters, IDPs etc, land
unlike in countries like Egypt and Silicone valley is a very emotive subject, a
clear demarcation (although expensive) is a wise thing to do. Otherwise
tomorrow, we will have squatters claiming haki yao on malili technopolis. Being
fenced to keep land grabbers away!!</span></p> 

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<p class="MsoNormal">Fencing 5,000 acres of land, we might as well fence the CBD,
please note that the one in Egypt is 600 acres and Egypt is a very different
place from Kenya they have the brotherhood who will blow up anything just
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<p class="MsoNormal">Silicon valley is not fenced, just because we fenced the
Aberdare forest does not justify fencing every inch of the country.  Have
we thought of the cost of doing this and of what benefit will it be to the
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<p class="MsoNormal">Also note that the parks are being fenced to keep the
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KAY System Technologies Ltd<br>
Phoenix House, 6th Floor<br>
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200<br>
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Bob,<br>
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That is Private Property, i suppose that is the right thing to do, i<br>
am sure we are going to have Mini Malilis in Malili, it is good to<br>
distinguish them. I havent been to the smart village in Egypt but i<br>
had a chance to look at the dummy and noticed it was controled, i<br>
guess that is the standard take a look at<br>
<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.smart-villages.com/docs/cairo.aspx" target="_blank">http://www.smart-villages.com/docs/cairo.aspx</a>.<br>
Unless i didnt understand your query<br>
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Regards<br>
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On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 10:57 AM, robert yawe &lt;<a rel="nofollow" href="mailto:robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk" target="_blank">robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi Listers,<br>
&gt; I have just found out that the Technology Park in Malili is to be fenced,<br>
&gt; interesting<br>
&gt; Regards<br>
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