On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:21 PM, Solomon Mburu <
solo.mburu@gmail.com> wrote:
> Bill,
>
> Stay on and fight for what you want while in the 'system.' If you pull
> out, you;ll have lost the battle of internet rights and users!
>
>
>
> On 10/09/2009, Catherine Adeya <
elizaslider@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Bill,
>>
>> Leaving the list is not the solution....in my view there is more good than
>> bad.
>>
>> N
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Bill Kagai <
billkagai@gmail.com>
>> To:
elizaslider@yahoo.com
>> Cc: ke-users <
ke-internetusers@bdix.net>; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>> <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2009 10:57:39 PM
>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Kenya: Consumers furious over high internet prices
>>
>> Alex,
>> Robert is apparently well known following emails I received from
>> highly reputable people in the Human Rights sector where he last
>> attacked. Through a
bdix.net mailing list. You have opted to keep
>> quiet about this.
>>
>> If you continue protecting his identity and he remains a member of
>> your organisation, you ought to be ACCOUNTABLE as the chairman and let
>> him face the full wrath of his RESPONSIBILITY. Otherwise, you are an
>> accomplice.
>>
>> Don't mix the sad issue of Defamation today with Consumer Rights. I
>> also want cheap internet.
>>
>> Also take heed, I do not represent Michael Joseph or any other person
>> who faced attacks from Robert but I took responsibility to unearth the
>> culprit as a proud Kenyan who is not ready to see one soul drive us
>> into a destructive path.
>>
>> Unless you become bold and expose him, I am sorry I do not have
>> anything good to say about you too and your organisation. Actually, I
>> do not know what am doing in this list any more.
>>
>> Good bye....ALL. I can certainly get better things to do.....
>>
>> Bill
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 9:56 PM, Gakuru Alex <
alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> Bill,
>>>
>>> "The trouble with being in the rat race is that even if you win,
>>> you're still a rat."- Lily Tomlin.
>>> I shall steer clear of the lowly races.
>>>
>>> inline responses,
>>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:12 PM, Bill Kagai <
billkagai@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Alex,
>>>> Don't beat around the bush.
>>>
>>> Bill = Impunity? Let's see....
>>>
>>> But if you wish;
>>>
>>> 1) find out from your Safaricom friend where I was all day today. Ask
>>> them for my mobile phone user location tracking and the days calls and
>>> messages log to verify that indeed I had my handset on me all day. You
>>> are aware that they all have all this huge amount of data(SMS, calls,
>>> location, transaction, whom we call, when, conversation details etc )
>>> on all of our communications on their servers, right? We do not ask
>>> for Data Protection bill aimlessly.
>>>
>>> 2) Indulge your investigations skills more- e.g. ask my neighbours if
>>> I was at the location given unto you.
>>>
>>> 3) Go to Kenya Power and Lighting Company and ask them for their power
>>> rationing program for today. And confirm whether indeed my location
>>> had an outage.
>>>
>>> 4) I spoke with several respected senior personalities today who
>>> needed data and information. Without power, I regretted, I could not
>>> send them via emails. I am ready to give you their numbers for you to
>>> confirm if indeed I told them so.
>>>
>>>> 1. Have you met Onyango Hatari in person??
>>>> 2. Do you have his contacts??
>>>> 3. Are you Onyango Hatari??
>>>>
>>>> Call me....0724226600 we discuss this matter. We need to straighten
>>>> this matter!!!!
>>>
>>> I shall not qualify or dignify your allegations with an honourable
>>> response.
>>>
>>> @Journalist: Anne-Marie Kinyanjui (and despite your disclaimer):
>>>
>>> Are you are qualified to advice us on consumer advocacy and
>>> telecommunications investments? You wrote me an email asking for me
>>> for data. What did you really want it for?
>>> Whom does a journalist write for? See for "professional journalist"
>>> here <
http://tinyurl.com/john-pilger-video>
>>>
>>> I can send to kictanet the KBC and NTV News clips of the same Michael
>>> Joseph interview, then all you can understand what I mean. Moderator
>>> let me know I can do that? (~10MB).
>>>
>>> ----------
>>> Finally,
>>>
>>> My data-based analysis remains valid, until and unless Safaricom's
>>> Michael Joseph offers verifiable proof on the contrary. Internet
>>> prices have to come down, immediately!
>>>
>>> regards,
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Gakuru Alex
>>>> <
alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Bill, your remark as it stands right here borders on something already
>>>>> illegal.... Please take note.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 11:26 AM, Bill Kagai <
billkagai@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Ladies and Gentlemen,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are missing the point here. Clearly, 'Onyango Hatari' does not
>>>>>> exist and is just a pseudonym for someone we know quite well on this
>>>>>> list who prefers to spew hatred using a different email address. This
>>>>>> matter in no longer on 'consumers' rights'.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would encourage Michael Joseph to report to the nearest police
>>>>>> station for investigations to commence with a view of suing for libel
>>>>>> because this is clear defamation. The Chairman of the ICT Consumers
>>>>>> Association should be one of the respondents 'to assist police with
>>>>>> investigations' since he seems to be the only one who knows the true
>>>>>> identity of one Onyango Hatari. Or is there anyone in this list who
>>>>>> has actually interacted with Onyango Hatari???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Bildad Kagai
>>>>>> MD - MediaCorp Limited
>>>>>> Nairobi Stock Exchange Authorised Information Vendor
>>>>>> Suite B2, Tetu Court, State House Avenue
>>>>>> P. O. Box 20311 - 00200
>>>>>> Nairobi, Kenya
>>>>>> Tel. 254 20 272 8332
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>>>>>>
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