Morning Fellow Listers,
In reference to the .Ke Domain Costs conversation, our response as DRAKE is

1. Pricing (Toilem)
In 2014, the call for a price drop that had reigned since the beggining of .KE was ended with a resolution to cut prices.
The only caveat to the conversation was an increase in domain numbers to the 105,000 target which is feasible for normal operations at our registry.
Our commitment as DRAKE is to rally registrars to push that number to and beyond the 105,000 mark triggering a review back to Kshs 500+VAT for renewals.
Modalities of this were shared during our DRAKE AGM last week and I urge both registrars and ICT stakeholders to subscribe to our mailing list for updates - http://bit.ly/2oT9ySV


2. .KE's 30Billion Ecosystem (Ali)
In line with the National Broadband stratergy, we've formulated a work plan that will create a Kshs 30B ecosystem and employing 10,000 ICT professionals over the next 5 years.
The current .KE ecosystem is estimated at Kshs 2B creating an average  600 jobs/annum
It's not perfect but we are constantly engaging partners to help us grow this conversation.
More on this conversation will be communicated in either Q3/Q4

Looking forward to working together towards making .KE the internet ecosystem for Africa
Kind Regards

Kariba Moko - DRAKE Chairman


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   1. Re: Is It Time to Break Up Google? (Mark Kipyegon)
   2. Re: .Ke Domain Costs (Toilem Godwin)


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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Is It Time to Break Up Google?
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In defence of Google, the number of services they have developed to support their core business are quite simply top of their class. The likes of Gmail, the Chrome browser, Google Maps and Google search itself have few if any comparable competitors.

Why should innovation be punished?

On 28 Apr 2017, at 11:55, "kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke" <kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

>
> Listers,
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/22/opinion/sunday/is-it-time-to-break-up-google.html?_r=0
>
> Here we go, again....
>
> It seems these *BIG* issues have been and will continue being with us for a
> long while.
>
> Before @Ali shoots back, this is a different debate from the Risk
> Management one, although they have certain areas where they intersect.
>
> I quite think the closing words are very appropriate...
>
>
> *"...Woodrow Wilson was right when he said in 1913, ?If monopoly persists,
> monopoly will always sit at the helm of the government.? We ignore his
> words at our peril....*




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Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2017 20:06:49 +0300
From: Toilem Godwin <toilemgodwin@gmail.com>
To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] .Ke Domain Costs
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Dear Listers,

What is DRAKE's take on this? haven't seen any comment from them on this
issue.

Being a Registrars Association in Kenya was expecting maybe an explanation
on how this was arrived at.

To KeNIC what has led to the frastic change in pricing and why change only
Renewal.

On Apr 28, 2017 09:58, "Brian Nyali via kictanet" <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

> Dear Waudo,
>
> The number of total domains stands at 68,062.
> The breakdown is as below:
>
>
> CO.KE       63144
>
> OR.KE       2027
>
> SC.KE       999
>
> AC.KE       766
>
> GO.KE      384
>
> ME.KE       341
>
> NE.KE       200
>
> INFO.KE   153
>
> MOBI.KE   48
>
> Kind regards,
> Brian M. Nyali.
> brian@kenic.or.ke
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"waudo siganga via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> *To: *"Brian Nyali" <brian@kenic.or.ke>
> *Cc: *"waudo siganga" <emailsignet@mailcan.com>, "Josh Kinoti" <
> jkinoti@gmail.com>
> *Sent: *Thursday, 27 April, 2017 18:10:57
> *Subject: *Re: [kictanet] .Ke Domain Costs
>
> What are the current registration numbers for .ke?
>
> W.
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 27, 2017, at 01:06 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet wrote:
>
> I'm not surprised by this turn of events.
>
> A little bird told me that the reason behind this change of strategy is
> simply that Registrars haven't met jointly agreed set targets and hence
> putting KeNIC in an untenable situation. KeNIC is a critical public
> resource and it's incumbent on the industry to support its growth.
>
> I've always been against growth by price reduction. Especially in the
> ccTLD Domain Name Space. The largest ccTLDs include .uk, .co and .de and
> it's never been about pricing.
>
> Back to the drawing board KeNIC and Drake?
>
> Ali Hussein
> Principal
> Hussein & Associates
> +254 0713 601113
>
>
> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>
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>
> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a
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>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 26 Apr 2017, at 8:09 PM, Odhiambo Washington via kictanet <
> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
>
> https://eacdirectory.co.ke/ke-renewal-price-change.php
>
> On 25 April 2017 at 22:50, Josh Kinoti via kictanet <
> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>
> Seen communication that Kenic had revised pricing for domains upwards.
>
> Has the registry abandoned the campaign to make the .ke pricing
> competitive?
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