Proudly take BOTH stands: (1) You are allowed to think about Machine learning and Algorthims now not later in the most innovative out-of-the box -ways that your mind can take you.
(2) IoT has been DIRECTLY linked to improving many sectors (if not all) especially food security and related issues that we grapple with as a developing country. What with the tech being extended to link an entire value-chain so that as soon as I purchase a bunch of sukumas at my local grocery, both the grocery's and my own networks are activated so that the supplier knows that the bunchs he delivered have been purchased at a certain rate today automatically predicts how many bunches are required in what location in the next day, week, month, year etc and the farmer's network is activated as well so as to prepare and plan for the next harvest, and tandem planting at another location and expected demands in which part of the country and therefore planned estimated for fertilizer, water and drought levels so as to be advised on irrigation alternatives to recurrent expected drought cycles in the Kenyan weather that is expected every 2-4 years and which period ...... in short, the point is, there is no one who is not allowed to think about Machine learning and Algorthims. Go ahead, we need you.


On Tue, Jul 11, 2017 at 10:22 AM, Eric Mwangi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Absolutely spot on Kanini.

I was fortunate to have a discussion with the CEO of Samsung Pay and the topic was deep learning as an enabler for AI. I was keen to ramp up some of the things happening in KE from a Machine learning perspective and how IoT will benefit us using public transport as an example.

His reaction was unexpected - he was surprised that we are thinking about Machine learning and Algorthims while we have a basic food problem ( I know bad news travels fast). Fix the ground floor first was his message, as it's difficult to re-invent the wheel. So all those boring subjects like enhancing our institutions, access to food and education as a basic necessity to all should be our focus. 

Still I dunno where to stand..

Sent from my iPhone

On 10 Jul 2017, at 19:42, kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

I think we need to revisit this conversation especially the consensus on a more responsible media. This article paints a different picture- that mainstream media itself is under seige. So dire is the situation that automatic bots sponsoring fake news have messed up with Google's algorithms making it that much harder to ID FAKE news. In which case, try as they may- the mainstream media may have already lost the war. 

Again I ask, what harm (real or potential) does FAKE news present? Do we need to pay attention or do we have better Kenyan problems to deal with? 



On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 at 10:39 kanini mutemi <kaninimutemi@gmail.com> wrote:
Thank you Namema, Wangari and Chebukati for adding to the conversation. I like that the insistence on due diligence, verification and the role of mainstream media keeps coming up. 

On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 at 00:26 Namema Amendi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It's great that there is widespread concern about sensational and false news. As much as we remain cautious, it is an area where regulators should exercise patience with since the market is sensitized to the issue and working on ways to fix it. For instance Facebook is grappling with the issue because it would lose quite a bit if it became known as the platform for fake news. In addition, proliferation of such 'fake news' presents a good business case for major news outlets, which have been bleeding revenue, as there is a path to reestablish themselves as trusted news sources with resources to verify sources. Finally, an extra lesson in research and writing classes (which all students partake in) can sensitize students to do a double-check online whenever they read a sensational headline. A double-check can be easily done with an extra mouse click. 

Thanks,

Regulatory & Policy Advisor, TMG

On 3 July 2017 at 07:41, WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Great Marketers have since eternity relied on getting into the syke of their target - deep psychology here with trends capture.

This explains why your favorite supermarket had just the chocolate brand you like while when you accidentally visit another branch down the road you find some other weird brands.

Thus any astute political campaign team would borrow this - which explains the popularity of the Cambridge Analytica and ilk of today. Give them what they want or design it to appear as such.

Fake promises, fake etc is very part and parcel of how most political campaign is designed - even without the internet.

What the internet and here it is more the ease of internet access has done is give a channel that reaches to even more, perhaps faster.

Be blessed.

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On Wednesday, 28 June 2017, 23:12, kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:


This has been an illuminating conversation for sure. What comes out clearly from the discussion today is:

1. Fake News is disinformation. Whilst we are keen to protect the Freedom of Expression, are we willing to justify disinformation as free speech? 

2. Fake News brings out the reality of click economy and Big Data. There is a general feeling that Fake News is here to stay hence the need to educate consumers to think critically and carry out due diligence. 
 
3. There is an opportunity for mainstream media to restructure and reclaim its legitimacy. Re posting social media Fake News as headlines has to stop. Invest in traditional journalism (quality vs quantity). 

Thank you so much to all those who followed today's discussion. Stay tuned for an enlightening conversation tomorrow on Online Bullying with Maryana. 

Good evening Listers!  

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 8:47 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Great discussion.

To add to the issue of fake news, we have now started witnessing mainstream media relying on social media for news. The problem is that sometimes there is no verification and confirming of legitimate sources. 

Further, we are also witnessing an increase in ruble rousing rumor filled sites that people unknowingly rely on for news .  This has been made possible by the fact that people can register and maintain domain names that mimic credible mainstream media outlets with no other intention than to fuel fake news and maybe hate speech. An example is http://tv-bbc.com/.

We could also question the internet user's responsibility in verification of what one posts. If one cant verify what they circulate, has that person given up his/her freedom to be a responsible user of the internet? And do such individuals require an external agency to make them responsible for what they post/circulate?

Best regards


Githaiga, Grace




On Wednesday, 28-06-2017 at 17:06 Ronald Ojino via kictanet wrote:
Hi all,
To echo Joash’s sentiments as we talk about validating our sources and the chain reaction…how can we enforce validation of news sources? Who bears the ultimate responsibility..is it the initial author, journalist
 or those who share the news?

On Jun 28, 2017, at 4:43 PM, Joash Moitui via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:

Dear all, 
Interesting and timely discussion. 
A fake news website might publish a hoax, then because it's getting social attention another site might pick it up, write that story as though it's true and may not link back to the original fake news website.
From there it's a chain reaction until at some point a journalist at a largely credible outlet might see it and quickly write something up, because many journalists are trying to write as many stories as possible and write stories that get traffic and social attention. 
The incentive is towards producing more and checking less. The incentive amongst journalists especially should focus on validating their sources. 


 
Joash Moitui

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 3:05 PM, kanini mutemi via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
Really interesting perspectives so far:

@Diacen I like that- 'fake News is NEWS'. Just to follow up, does Fake News do any damage? Is there a reason to step in and regulate Fake News.

@Gertrude I think one of the key things that is coming out clearly about Fake News is it being DISINFORMATION as opposed to MISINFORMATION. I wonder whether such instances are as rampant here as was seen in the US Elections.

@Barrack that's a fresh perspective on upholding traditional tenets of Journalism as a counter for Fake News. However, given that a lot of Fake News is peddled over social media and that Fake News is more sensational (Hot! so to speak) will this be effective in slowing down the spread of Fake News?

@Grace, given @Barrack's observation that Fake News is now a cash cow, why then discourage the propagation of Fake News? What is the harm?

@Francis, I like that you throw the ball back to the consumers- due diligence. I see a concern here however, Fake News based on psychographic analysis targets a particular demographic who are gullible and will readily believe alternative facts to build on their pre conceived notions. They themselves may never know they are consuming Fake News. What about that group of people?


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On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 1:27 PM, Francis Monyango via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > wrote:
(a)Is Fake News a problem for Kenya?

It depends. Yes and No.

(b) Companies such as Cambridge Analytica have been said to use
pyschographic techniques such as voter profiling during elections to
determine who gets to hear what message. Advertising companies have
used similar targeted approaches in marketing for years- why is it a
problem for elections?

Internet companies through algorithms have thrived on giving you more
of what you 'want'. People should learn to conduct due diligence.

(c) Should internet intermediaries filter Fake News from their platforms?

Nope. That will amount to policing the internet

(d) Should Fake News be banned?

No. Suggestions have been made world over on the ideal remedy for this
menace but in democracies, it is hard because it goes against the
principles of free speech. The Canadian Supreme Court has held in a
case to strike down a false news provision of law that the provision
was contrary to the constitutional freedom of expression.

“The reality is that when the matter is one on which the majority of
the public has settled views, opinions may, for all practical
purposes, be treated as an expression of a ‘false fact,” the Learned
Justices of the Court said.

In Kenya, the law limits the right to freedom of expression to the
extent that one is not allowed to spread propaganda for war, incite
people to violence, hate speech and advocate for ethnic hate. These
limitations also apply to the media according to Article 34. The same
constitutional provision also provides for the establishment of the
Media Council of Kenya.

One of the roles the drafters of the Constitution envisioned this body
to play is setting media standards while regulating and monitoring
their compliance. It is with this powers that are expounded on in the
Media Act that the Council accredits journalists while requiring them
to follow the Code of Conduct for the Practice of Journalism. While
the standards on accuracy, integrity and accountability apply to
journalists; these standards do not apply to bloggers.

Hence they cannot be held to have breached the Code when they post
fake news online. From the angle of defamation laws, some of these
stories are not defamatory. Neither do they constitute a breach of
Article 33(2). For example the many speeches attributed to Presidents
Robert Mugabe and Donald Trump about Kenyans and corruption. If they
were to be counter checked against the elements of defamation, they
will fail. The statement might be false but not damaging per se, hence
not warranting a suit for damages.

Some of the sites are not even within the Kenyan jurisdiction and no
claim of damage may be sustained against them


http://monyango.com/index.php/ 2017/05/15/fake-news-the-battl e-for-clicks/


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> Your comments were very valid.
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> Getrude,Reposting my comment that was on another thread.
> Good morning Kanini,
> I will attempt the first question:
> Maybe we could first start by defining or describing "fake news" in our
> context. There is a lot of disinformation and even media manipulation that
> can be traced back to political actors.
> In my view some of the characteristics of this manipulation include messages
> crafted sensationally to provoke emotional responses. Another class is
> messages casually/reckless condemning an entire tribe- it is impressive how
> much this kind has reduced over the years especially among major online
> spaces.
> Disinformation is carried out by both sides of the political divide. It
> could be tackled through political accountability mecahnisms such as the
> guidelines on bulk messaging in the last elections. I wonder whether it's
> practical to update them for Internet messaging.
> Beyond that, fake news during elections can also be managed by old school
> credible news. More trusted media outlets must more than ever before invest
> in good journalism. On that note, kudos to Ngirachu of Nation for his new
> segment demystifying fake news of each week.
> Best,
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> On 28 Jun 2017 04:36, "gertrude matata via kictanet"
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> Dear Members,
> This is indeed a very interesting  discussion.I was wondering, could we have
> a working definition of  FAKE NEWS.
> In addition, what is the fake news test to apply even for those who wish to
>  kill it
> Kind Regards
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> Morning listers!
> Indeed fake news and skewed reportage by main media outlets is already with
> us.Editorial policy of some houses is outright scandalous.In this time of
> election where perception of voters is critical, fake news will come in
> droves and due to compromises and skewed editorial policy by media houses on
> issues, agenda setting is purposed on set goals.It is worse when the main
> media depend on social media for its news items and worse when it uses
> social media content to reinforce a particular opinion and stand on an
> issue.When the media is sold to the highest bidder in a political
> environment or is compromised in being factual and balanced in its
> reportage,then it looses the moral ground to point out ills in the society.
> Note fake News is NEWS.
>
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> Good morning Listers,
> Welcome to Day 2 of the Pre KIGF Online Discussions. Joy Mala and I will
> co-moderate this session. We look forward to a vibrant discussion on Fake
> News especially during the electioneering period.
> We would like to hear your perspectives on:
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> (b) Companies such as Cambridge Analytica have been said to use
> pyschographic techniques such as voter profiling during elections to
> determine who gets to hear what message. Advertising companies have used
> similar targeted approaches in marketing for years- why is it a problem for
> elections?
> (c) Should internet intermediaries filter Fake News from their platforms?
> (d) Should Fake News be banned?
> The discussion is open.
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