Easy way out! -----Original Message----- From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Mark Mwangi Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 10:57 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] FW: Legalizing Phone Tapping in Kenya? well seeing as they are doing it anyway, why not legalize it? On 10/5/11, Gichuki John Chuksjonia <chuksjonia@gmail.com> wrote:
All u can do is to be careful what u say on phone.
Like last year we just sat outside Hilton with bluetooth capture tools on Backtrack and since most people use headsets when driving, the kind of chatter we captured during that wardrive was hilarious.
So in short, its not just the government which can illegally do this, its any one who has an understanding of Infosec.
Cheers,
./Chucks
On 10/5/11, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.or.ke> wrote:
Listers,
Can we have a structured discussion on this issue? The issue seemed buried by IGF, but is an important issue to discuss. Someone shared the draft bill on this list.
KICTANET Moderators?
Edith
From: kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Edith Adera Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 2:13 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legalizing Phone Tapping in Kenya?
In the newspaper article, the bill referred to is called the "National Intelligence Services Bill" - what role can the ICT industry play to inform this bill that is touching on an ICT issue (privacy in the digital environment? etc). A key issue in the current IGF debate!
Edith From: Barrack Otieno [mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:30 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] Legalizing Phone Tapping in Kenya?
Dear Edith,
Thank you for setting the ball rolling, in the absence of a framework on Freedom of Information we are likely to experience such issues, well Ministry of Infocom has done well but if my memory is still ok i recall the issue was somewhere in bunge, i wonder what Eng Rege has to say about that, of late so many bills have been going through, i hope the Information Society is not being left behind.
Best Regards On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.or.ke<mailto:eadera@idrc.or.ke>> wrote: Listers,
Many of us may have missed the front page news in the nation newspapers yesterday given the flurry of activities at the IGF.
This idea poses many questions - is this the way to go? What are the implications? etc etc.
Coming at the time when Kenya is hosting the IGF begs for a debate and deep reflection as a country.
Can we have a public debate on this and inform the draft bill? The public hardly has the opportunity to debate bills that make their way to parliament (despite the new constitution enshrining this as a requirement - or is it a right?). I indeed hope this time it will be different given the over 20 million mobile users in Kenya - they have a stake in this.
Look forward to reactions.
Edith
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