I have this feeling that the “force(s)’ behind the article is/are individuals with large parcels of land (irregularly acquired of course- in a certain area around NBI) that would love to have this project stopped and re-located to these land- thus effecting what I will call “Land laundering”. We’ll have to all fight for this project, it will come to fruition
Edwin
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+eonchari=lynxbits.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Mark Mwangi
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 8:45 AM
To: Edwin
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue can we have a public position?
As I have been told again and again, Nothing comes without a fight.
The old vultures will not let go of the government fund honeypot without resistance and this is a fact we all need to take into account. Dr. Ndemo is not a naive man and I believe he saw this coming. I am personally not in a position of any influence hence my public position is as good as Mama Njokis's at Marikiti Market.
Organised, stable and intellectual support is what Dr. Ndemo and other like minded technocrats need for them to use their official capacities effectively. Its not impossible. We just need a little faith. After all the guys with more power are just humans like the rest of us.
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 8:35 AM, <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Edith,
That's true, reading through Yawe's post I get the impression that we shouldn't underestimate the forces against the project which makes sense, my proposal is the current status notwithstanding can we come up with a known position for or against the project as a stakeholder community, I think we need to separate Dr. Ndemo as a person and the cause he is championing for which is in the interest of the public.
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From: Edith Adera <eadera@idrc.or.ke>
Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2012 00:57:02 -0400
To: Barrack Otieno<otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: RE: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue can we have a public position?
The Konza Technopolis Train already left the station in my view!
Is it stoppable? Me thinks not. Making a mountain out of the media article is what may lead to it being stopped, unless I'm missing something?
Bwana Ndemo/Catherine Adeya - can you enlighten us on the current status? My understanding is that it's moving on in any case. correct?
Edith
From: kictanet [kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.or.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Barrack Otieno [otieno.barrack@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 7:01 AM
To: Edith Adera
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue can we have a public position?
Well if we made noise and Thika road was eventually marked why can't we be heard on this matter, GG can you lead us on making a public stand i am willing to write to whom it may concern on behalf of listers, KICTANET position on Konza Project we can append our signatures if need be to prove that we are a force to reckon with in any case we are key stakeholders in so far as the constitution is concerned, i think majority of us have been sufficiently involved in the process.
Best Regards
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 3:27 AM, Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Interactive Limited] <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote:
Robert,
An interesting view!
Is it right to say we cannot help? I would imagine that we need to make that move to help.
Also, will the accused be the one to help himself in this instance or should we be the ones to initiate the task force that would defend a good cause from being killed OR are you saying the “interested” parties are just too powerful?
Regards
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+bkioko=bernsoft.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of robert yawe
Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2012 9:20 PM
To: bkioko@bernsoft.com
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Konza Land Issue
Dr. Ndemo, Sorry for being the bearer of the truth but unfortunately hang you shall hang as you neither own the judge nor the jury and the hang man takes no sides. Online rhetoric and closed group support will not save you, what you needed from the beginning was support from a constituency with a platform, sad to see Siganga give leap service to your plight yet he runs the only bona fide mouth piece which should have taken out a full page advert in today's paper in support of your efforts if only your online supporters had paid their subscriptions. I raised pertinent issues about the project right from its public inception and took the heat, even taking on the title "village madman". This is one time that I wish not to be exonerated as you have worked selflessly on the project, unfortunately in a utopian manner. Those who want the project dead have more power than those, like yourself, who want it to succeed. I recently attended a presentation by the Ministry of Nairobi Metropolitan whose master plan includes a 5,000 acre technopolis to be situated along Kangundo Road. It takes the Konza project concept and spreads it over 6 locations around Nairobi each covering 5,000 acres. The land has been identified and the sellers have the right connections. Find our why the Tatu Project remains in limbo then you will understand why Dr. Ndemo has only 2 options, drop the project and stay afloat or push on with it and go down with it. Dr. Ndemo, we cannot help you as we are merely hecklers sitting outside the stadium and following the goings on in the pitch through the radio commentator because we fear to take a public stand. Your fall will be a very public one utilising the space you have so eloquently advocated and propagated, an independent media. It is time that you put together a war council to go to battle with and for you, whose members are clearly not on this forum. I wish you all the best in surviving this onslaught and hope that you had followed my finger that kept trying to point you towards the writing on the wall. As the late Vice President Kijana Wamalwa once said "I found myself wallowing in the miasma of deceit . . ." Regards
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