Sorry Adam but I beg to differ. 1) You cannot compare the US copper plant with the Kenyan copper plant 2) One of the most valuable components of a copper plant is the right of way (wayleave) 3) TKL also owns/controls 40% of the TEAMS fiber optic cable 4) TKL has management rights for the National fibre backbone - NOFBI 5) TKL owns real estate in every county, district and sub-location in the country (it's branches and exchanges) 6) TKL holds a "basket" of licenses,along with frequencies that would arouse any telco in the world Best regards, Brian On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Since when was a landline company a 'crown jewel'. It's 2013 and that company should just be left to fall apart on its own.
In the US, only 1 in 4 households will have a traditional landline by the end of the year:
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/09/telephone_companies_abandon_copper_phone_lin...
I presume the Kenyan rate is far below that but it seems like the focus should be on fiber and LTE and not worrying about dinosaurs like Kenya Telekom
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On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com> wrote:
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I feel it's time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just distracting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting with patriotism by extension.
Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk GoK for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it?
Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ali Hussein Sent: =E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12 To: Dennis Kioko Mbuvi Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom saga Listers
In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and threat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.
In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right thing. Lets go one step further:-
The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed experiment and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to the Kenyan People.
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