Dear Alex, There is no crisis or tension in the ICT legislative process. I was pointing out the opportunities that are available to you in ensuring that the piece of legislation you want is passed. As far as I am concerned all of us have representation in parliament and we should utilize that opportunity instead of blaming the Government. The Safari Park proposals shall be given to the MPs. The Thursday date was set anticipating that parliament will go on recess. Now that they are not going on recess, they have proposed August 30th and 31st. We are looking for resources for a venue in Mombasa and shall revert to you. Regards Bitange.
May I suggest we ask Eng. Rege to help diffuse ICT tensions now bottling up? Borrow his experince on dealing with government, stakeholders, steakholders, and others? Just thinking aloud and welcome comments.
Alex
--- Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks Alex i appreciate your response your arguments are valid though
Barrack,
My apologies if I appeared to harass the Permanent Secretary. The gist of my, I believe justified, request for information was to know the fate of our Safari Park contributions considering that the expected legislators could not come because of said Parlimentary Procedures.
I needed to know whether we should assume that
contributions we made needed to be repeated should an opportunity to meet with the Committee present itself especially if the ministry could not incorporate
On 8/17/07, Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru@yahoo.com> wrote: those them.
I interpret Dr. Ndemo's advice as "they have them, because we gave them but now lobby hard yourselves
ensure your interests are captured"
I am sufficiently pleased with his reply, his voluntary additional information, and await confirmation on how the committee sees best fit to receive any outstanding stakeholders' concerns on the bill as promised today.
Please understand that I consider myself of the issue focussed, not the person, nature and I would seriously err to substitute any clause, error, commission, or omission with "Bitange Ndemo":)
Have a laughly day!
Alex
--- Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Good effort bwana Ndemo, Alex i bet you understand how our legislators operate take it easy on bwana Ndemo, bwana Ps
your level best to ensure that Stakeholder expectations are met, so far i guess you deserve a pat Regards
On 8/16/07, Benjamin Makai <benmakai@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dr.Ndemo This information is very necessary and
important. Kindly could you also
outline to the level or rather phases
the same sir.
This gives us the the auditable elements of
process for the few whom
may not be aware of the process and yet they may want to shout loundest..
All is about the welfare of our countr y(personal sentiments and not about who shouts loundest and in some situations or least solutions. ICT is all bout solutions and world wide tested and
best practices)
Regards
*bitange@jambo.co.ke* wrote:
Dear Alex, I tried to explain how parliament works
earlier in the week. We cannot
revise the bill here. We have taken the
consideration.
Luckily today the committee sumoned me to
to the committee for parliament. They want to have a
stakeholder's meeting either on Tuesady or Thursday next week in Mombasa. I shall confirm this to you tomorrow. Any changes now must go through the committee since the bill belongs to
make the necessary changes. The safari Park
them but they may decide that they do not want to include them. This is where we need the stakeholders to push.
I hope you do not leave this window of opportunity to pass and blame us later.
Regards
Ndemo.
Dr. Ndemo,
You invited us to Safari Park Hotel and on information and belief, we were coming to meet the Parliament Committee. We understood your at the venue explanation why they could not come.
However,
Would you be in a position to inform stakeholders what to expect of our Safari Park contributions on
You have this window to proposals are already with the
Kenya Communications Amendment Bill 2007? i.e. does the ministry have an "updated" version-considerate of expressed concerns? I am made to understand
a
Bill's mover (who in this case is the Minister) is allowed to amend it anytime.
This also would not only help us know where our concerns lay but it would also help us take informed engagements with the Energy and Communications Committee.
I request for this information in view of your emailed informative note advising stakeholders on
making processes, advising on the steps, when and where to engaging parliamentary committees in
law the
process.
Hope to hear from you.
Sincerely,
Alex
--- Brian Longwe wrote:
> Thank you very much Bw. Ndemo for this clear, > concise and very > practical reminder of our legislative
to try pertaining the proven proposals parliament. that the process
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