I thought it was rather unkind making the candidates stand for a good 3 hours surely. Martha Karua noticeably struggled on her heels at the end of the first session.Maybe in the next debate they need to look into this. Julie and Linus were comfortably sitting down throughout! I also look forward to a more engaging style. Flesh out more! But a good start notheless! Gilda Odera ----- Original Message ----- From: Edith Adera To: [email protected] Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [kictanet] #KEDebate13 George, What would you use to hold them to account? Their empty words? You will be surprised to learn that the women's movement, civil society movement and the masses brought Senegal's current President into power amidst the greatest odds.trying to unseat a POWERFUL incumbent that H.E. Wade was. But they did it. One of the things the movement did was to get the President to physically sign publicly a pledge (manifesto) of what he will do. To-date that's what is used to hold him accountable and remind him of what he promised ad signed to deliver for the people of Senegal. Why can't Kenyans hold their leaders to account in equal measure?....and what else would you use to do so other than what they have promised in "indelible ink"? It's when people like you make them think they can get away with empty words is when they do not give what they pledge the seriousness it deserves. We need to break away from our old mindsets. Edith From: George Nyabuga [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: February 13, 2013 10:39 AM To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions; Edith Adera Subject: Re: [kictanet] #KEDebate13 I was equally delighted to listen to the candidates. However, I should say I was disappointed more because of the quality of answers. I might have missed a bit of it as i struggled to watch it online (I eventually decided to listen instead, thanks to live streaming by Capital!), but the guys were not articulate enough and struggled to convince me that they grasp the issues affecting Kenyans. Beyond the mere demagoguery, I did not hear concrete answers on how they would deal with education, health and social problems. Perhaps I was expecting too much. But this was definitely a good start. Just tongue-in-cheek. Do we need manifestos when they are merely 'pieces of paper'? How do we hold the guys and the parties to account if they fail to deliver? They merely use manifestos as campaign tools, with no intention of fulfilling whatever they have on those papers. I am being cynical because there is no way the 'bigger' boys (to use Raila's words) are going to implement policies of land (distribution), (absolutely) free education. They are merely pulling wool over our eyes and we should be more critical of these, and perhaps use them to determine the way we vote and of course their fate. Unfortunately, many of us do not have the capacity to digest and understand the manifestos. Very unfortunate indeed. Dr George Nyabuga Tel: +230 403 51 00 Head, Communications and PR, AFRINIC Fax: +230 466 67 58 [email protected] - www.afrinic.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Please join us at the Africa Internet Summit, Lusaka, Zambia, 9 - 21 June 2013 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On Feb 13, 2013, at 11:10 AM, Edith Adera <[email protected]> wrote: Indeed, Kudos to the media for a job well done. I recall a tweet from Ndemo that morning suggesting that all Kenyans should read the manifestos before the debate so we judge candidates based on their concrete plans and their responses to questions rather than other considerations (e.g. tribal persuasions). I thought this was an interesting prompting and went out in search of the manifestos online....to my disappointment, I only found 2 manifestos...CORD and JUBILEE!!!. None of the others exist online, unless I missed them. Are the other parties embracing the "digital world"? If anyone has electronic copies of the other 6 manifestos, please share on the list Listers, What should be different in Debate No 2? Edith -----Original Message----- From: kictanet [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Harry Delano Sent: February 13, 2013 9:20 AM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: Re: [kictanet] #KEDebate13 Alice Best, I was lurking in the shadows until I took note that the landmark debate in question has not been given 'kipao mbele' here. If I could raise 'hue and cry', that ICT wasn't given the due mileage in that debate, then we could sensitize candidates before the next one that, this is a driver of the current and future economy. Meanwhile, just noticed all the well articulated positions had little or non to borrow from the debate we had a while back here quizzing Dr. Ndemo as a 'future' candidate. If you ask me, the aspirants would benefit a lot from his insights that he widely shared here. Maybe at a consultancy fee..? Just me.. Harry Alice Munyua <[email protected]> wrote:
Kudos to the media for organising our first ever presidential debate.
It was an important milestone. Very interesting, dealt with real
issues and was also quite entertaining.
Best
Alice
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