No worries Victor.
Regards
From: Victor Kapiyo [mailto:vkapiyo@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2012 8:45 AM
To: Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Interactive Limited]
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Music Piracy in Kenya - Government can Help
I'm afraid i got this a little late in the day, but nonetheless, here are my two cents:
Bernard, I hope you will be able to give us regular updates on the progress of the your case and possibly some details esp. names of parties, a brief summary of the case as filed, case number and hearing dates should one wish to follow up in court. I think its good that you have been bold enough to go to court for legal redress and i believe that the outcome of this case will form a useful precedent for the enforcement of copyright online.
In addition, it would be important to explore further the options already listed above by Kivuva, Alex et al, and tie these with the discussions on intermediary liability (see separate thread + attached report on IL), to inform legal reform. I am aware that the Kenya Copyright Board has started receiving comments for amendments to the Copyright Act (which has its limitations especially with regard to the internet), and as such, it would be useful to assess practical options and proposals that can be implemented through the law or otherwise to safeguard the rights and interests of copyright holders without compromising the openness of the internet or unduly limiting the rights of other internet users.
Cheers
Victor
On 28 September 2012 10:29, Bernard Kioko [Bernsoft Interactive Limited] <bkioko@bernsoft.com> wrote:
BTW,
We must all understand that it's very difficult for someone sitting in
Turkey or Netherlands to know that Njoroge's song in Nyeri is currently the
top song.
It's my believe that someone in Kenya is feeding these sites with info or
content. Someone in Kenya is benefiting from this content.
One interesting thing is that a local company that infringed on our
copyright had the same spelling mistake on our content as two other
infringers (including WAPKID). 2 of these have confirmed that they got
content from a local organisation. Its possible that WAPKID got this content
from this same organization.
Anyway, we are proceeding to court on this matter tomorrow so I shall have
to say very little from this moment.
Thank you everyone for your help so far and incase I can't comment much
further, it's because I am advised to not (some court process stuff).
Regards
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To: bkioko@bernsoft.com
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Subject: Re: [kictanet] Music Piracy in Kenya - Government can Help
What way for Kenya?
Disclaimer: I am neither Kenyan, nor know much about the legislative and
regulatory environment there.
On 27 September 2012 18:37, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
> Organised online piracy is hard to beat especially if hosting is done
> on some distant islands. We saw how the internet community rushed to
> the aid of Kim Dotcom of megauploads fame.
Some with very good reason! There were many negative effects of taking down
Megaupload; many people used the site for legitimate purposes:
for sending, sharing and storing files.
Furthermore, MegaUpload was not operating much differently then sites like
dropbox and YouTube, which also occasionally unwittingly sometime have
copyright infringing content. These companies, including MegaUpload
responded to DMCA requests, and had easy mechanisms for reporting copyright
violations and requesting takedowns. What if these domains are also taken
down or blocked on the same grounds?
>The only solution in my
> informed view is to have offending domains/IPs blacklisted by our
>local ISPs, although that would require high level cooperation, and
>would raise issues of net-neutrality. Elsewhere, giant Intelectual
>Property owners have gone through WIPO/ICANN to disable and prosecute
>copyright violators.
IP address blocking, which would possibly affect net neutrality and freedom
of expression.
RE: DOMAIN AND IP ADDRESS BLOCKING
Domains can change in seconds, and users can learn almost as fast as this
what the new one. The WAPKIDs site has a number of other domains with the
word WAP in it that perform the same function.
IP addresses can also change just as fast.
I would hope that Kenya goes a way that would balance copyright enforcement
concerns with human rights concerns. What would be the unintended
consequences of blocking domains and IP addresses?
Blocking a domain can have chilling effects on freedom of expression and
association. Firstly the said domains may host legal as well as illegal
content. It is hard to generalise about a domain that acts as an
intermediary for uploads and downloads- whether it is an illegal or legal
site. Mistakes can also be made by domain blockers which can inadvertantly
censor legitimate content.
Blocking IPs in addition to interfering with the efficient function of the
internet, can also have alot of collateral damage in the form of inadvertant
censorship. A large part, if not most of the internet, is on shared hosting.
Blocking an IP can can result in the blocking of all other websites on that
IP, most of which in a shared hosting situation are not associated and do
not even know anyone else on that host. Blocking IPs can silence the average
Joe on the Internet, be he/she a blogger, a website developer or struggling
musician.
if there is ever a blocklist provided to ISPs in Kenya, who controls this
list? How can we be sure that the management of this list is not politically
influenced? Will the maintenance of the list be transparent.
> internet focused enforcement measures to combat online copyright
> infringement, including:
> 1. Graduated response culminating in suspension of internet access 2.
> Traffic shaping 3. Blocking (URL, IP, port, protocol) 4. Using the
> domain name system (domain seizure).
> 5. Criminalising copyright infringement by illegal content consumers
> 6. Turning to cloud storage servers (cyberlockers) Probably Kenya
> should consider walking one of those paths.
> 7. Expanding the pool of internet intermediaries as agents for
> enforcement
>
> Which way for Kenya?
1. If one is being monitored for the amount of times one connects to certain
domains, one is effectively surveiled. There are privacy consequences here.
Such systems would be open to abuse as well, and would have to be very
transparent.
2. The nature of content cannot ascertain its legaility. This would also
entail surveilance, as under point one.
3. Domains and IP discussed above. Discriminating by port or protocol would
not be fair. I could be downloading a legal Ubuntu distro, Creative Commons
material, or all number of things through Bittorrent, for example. Would
packets then need to be sniffed? Now there is more surveilance, in addition
to the sites one visits being monitored, the contents of files and packets
are analysed.
4. Using the Domain Name System (Siezing domains)? I am not sure what this
entails. Please elaborate. I am no expert on internet governance, but this
would entail radically altering the structure of the internet. MPAA has even
taking fiddling with the DNS system off the table
http://mashable.com/2012/01/17/mpaa-sopa-pipa/
> 6. Turning to cloud storage servers (cyberlockers)
Like Megaupload?
Many options off the table
> 7. Expanding the pool of internet intermediaries as agents for
> enforcement
So running out of options, if governments and the music industry cannot
solve the problem, they must pressure intermediaries to enforce copyright?
Intermediaries are just the pipes, they are neither aware of nor actively
propagate content on their networks. If a user accesses a copyrighted file,
say from WAPKID, It should be the copyright infringer, not the network
operator or ISP responsible for the violation.
Limitations on the liability of intermediaries are vital for the successful
functioning of the information society and information economy. This is why
intermediaries are protected from liability for copyright infringement under
the DMCA in America, under the EU Commerce Directive, under the Electronic
Communications and Transactions Act in South Africa, and in many other
countries.
When under the legislation listed above, intermediaries acting as hosts must
respond to takedown requests for valid cases of copyright infringement, and
they must respond to all legal requests in any given country. To qualify, it
is suggested under these legislations that there should probably be a take
down system. Intermediaries lose their liability once they are aware of the
content by means of a take-down notice, so need to take seriously takedown
requests. Is there such a take-down system in Kenya. Any such system should
be transparent and offers all affected parties recourse to appeal.
I become concerned when holding intermediaries liable for infringement
beyond when they are hosting it becomes problematic. To enforce copyright,
with regards to ACCESS to sites such as WAPKid.
Intermediaries would be required to implement a number of methods that may
be considered censorship or surveilance e.g. packet sniffing, filtering,
keeping records on sites accessed by users etc.
Such a system of intermediary which aims to get intermediaries to enforce on
users punishments so that they do not downloading content - The "three
strikes and you are out"/HADOPI framework in France - has had many human
rights implications and problems with implementation.
See this scenario:
http://www.cnet.com.au/french-illegal-downloads-agency-hadopi-may-be-abolish
ed-339341011.htm
Lastly, I recommend this paper as a critique of an intermediary liability
approach to enforcing copyright:
http://www.giswatch.org/fr/node/512
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