On 4 Dec 2019, at 07:25, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
BarrackInteresting. Great that you bring up the KeNIC issue. During the AGM certain promises were made about transparency, bringing the community more into the organization etc.I wonder where we are at on that?RegardsAli Hussein
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Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with._______________________________________________On Wed, Dec 4, 2019 at 10:03 AM Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:@Ali Husseinhttps://www.internetsociety.org/blog/2019/12/the-sale-of-pir-the-internet-society-board-perspective/This is a very interesting transaction that brings into play economic aspects of the Domain Name Industry. Our very own @KENIC will soon be worth USD 1B. Are we prepared for that season. Do we have safeguards that will ensure it continues to serve the Public interest?Back to PIROn Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 9:04 PM Liz Orembo via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:@Lordmwesh, history has it that it won the auction and was awarded .Org because of its public interest outfit._______________________________________________On Mon, Dec 2, 2019, 19:03 Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:MwendwaI see your point.I just have one more question:-Who owns ISOC? That answer should put this conversation to rest. And were the owners consulted? :-)RegardsAli Hussein
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Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with._______________________________________________On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 4:15 PM Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:Of course reading Kieren McCarthy's articles will never give a balanced view. He looks at things from the most cynical perspective.Yes, we have been following the debate keenly.Ali, here is ICANN's allegedly response https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/30/icann-says-it-does-not-have-authority-over-org-transaction/And you cannot really compare the sale as selling a public playground. The .org was owned 100% by PIR and in extension ISOC. It is not owned by communities, neither is it owned by non profits. Don't let names like Ethos Capital or Public Interest Registry fool you. It is all commercial. ISOC won a competitive bid to manage the .org in 2003, and they have ultimate authority over how they profit from it.Here I some good reading on the debacle:1. The interesting connection between the .Org deal and ICANN https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/13/the-interesting-connection-between-the-org-deal-and-icann/2. Ethos paid $1.135 billion for .Org https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/29/ethos-paid-1-135-billion-for-org/3. ISOC CEO repeats the registry competition fallacy https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/26/isoc-ceo-repeats-the-registry-competition-fallacy/4. ISOC chapter breaks ranks, criticizes deal to sell .Org https://domainnamewire.com/2019/11/27/isoc-chapter-breaks-ranks-criticizes-deal-to-sell-org/On Mon, Dec 2, 2019, 14:03 Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:SidneyThanks for sharing. This is akin to selling public land assigned for public good to a private developer.What is going on? And what is ICANN's response to this?RegardsAli Hussein
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Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with._______________________________________________On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 1:12 PM Sidney Ochieng via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:Hi all,_______________________________________________Have you all be keeping tabs on the sale of the the .org TLD?Catch up here:Internet world despairs as non-profit .org sold for $$$$ to private equity firm, price caps axed: https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/11/20/org_registry_sale_shambles/Please take some time to oppose this here: https://savedotorg.org/--Regards,Sidney
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