Hi Robert, where exactly has KIXP failed? In fact they are a success story that should be promoted as a local version of internet governance in action. The UG IX on the other hand is a dismal failure by kixp standards. It loses power fairly regularly, has no full time staff looking after it and access to it has, until recently, open to anybody that could convince the askari they should be able to get in. It is getting better, pole, pole, but NOT because of govt intervention. Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it. Rgds, mctim On 1/14/11, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Walu,
I believe we need to come up with local solutions to our peculiar local needs, a quick example, mobile money transfer is supposed to be for micro payments yet in Kenya it is the sole payment method for entire organisations. Central Bank did not pick some standard developed somewhere to justify not increasing the transaction value limit, they looked at the local scenario and made a local decision.
KIXP is failing with the so called open systems approach, we need to develop a solution that will meet our requirements just like we shall soon do with the Ocampo 6, lets stop following other peoples strategies blindly we need out own unique approach. A believe Uganda has gone one up on us as per a previous contribution on this thread.
Lets avoid copy pasting issues like one Kisia who copies bylaws and even forgot to change street names.
Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thu, 13 January, 2011 11:08:27 Subject: Re: [kictanet] KEnic down-Basics of IXPs
@ Yawe, Plse visit http://drpeering.net/index.php
and specifically spend some time on
http://drpeering.net/white-papers/Internet-Service-Providers-And-Peering.htm...
then thereafter you will agree when I say that: 1. Most Peering arrangements are (should?) indeed (be) private arrangements. 2. Regulating an IXP is not the same as regulating "Interconnection tarrifs btwn (voice) Telcos" 3. Dr. Ndemo and a "Govt" IXP?- to me its sounds like a contradiction of terms because by nature IXPs tend to be "open systems" rather than closed to one stakeholder. Of which government can and should have. But then it would be called GCCN - government common core network rather than an IXP.
walu.
--- On Thu, 1/13/11, robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
From: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk> Subject: Re: [kictanet] KEnic down To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, January 13, 2011, 10:09 AM
Hi,
Please note that KIXP is a private club that has loose and unenforceable rules and regulations for its members which is why at peak times a lot of local traffic must get routed via Europe.
This explain to you why Dr. Ndemo wanted to setup a separate exchange point to initially provide service to the government and on the other end I have kept insisting the CCK needs to set up an exchange point with enforceable regulations such as a minimum bandwidth to it with redundant links.
Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya
Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696
________________________________ From: Ngũgĩ Kĩmani <ngugi@mafundi.co.ke>
To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Thu, 13 January, 2011 9:28:42 Subject: [kictanet] KEnic down
KEnic appears to be down today. Also why is it that traffic through Orange-TKL first goes to Europe before coming back to Nairobi, Kenya? Think KIXP. Are KEnic and Orange-TKL not peering members on KIXP, I would expect them to be pioneer members on KIXP to serve as role models for other organizations.
Kind regards,
-- Ngũgĩ Kĩmani | Fundi wa Mitambo | 0772 576846 | http://www.mafundi.co.ke/home
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