----- Original Message ----
From: Michael Joseph <MJoseph@Safaricom.co.ke>
To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Monday, 26 November, 2007 12:22:51 PM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The NewFrontierinTransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007

Actually the agreement has been reached by both parties. We are just
waiting for some outstanding items to be concluded.

Michael

CEO
Safaricom Limited


-----Original Message-----
From: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke]
On Behalf Of John Walubengo
Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 12:14 PM
To: Michael Joseph
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The
NewFrontierinTransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007

my quick two cents.

1. On high-costs: 'High-cost' is actually NOT relative-
having been defined by UN/ITU as the cost of service as a %
of the Gross National Income per Capita. (ITU Digital
Access Indices ( ITU News, 2003).  In simpler times, are
the citizens continuously faced with the 'difficult' choice
between communicating and buying their next meal? i.e if
the cost of communication results in their missing their
next meal then the service is quite expensive.

2. On Commercial Agreements between Operators: I believe
the operators have the 1st privilege to reach an agreement.
However, the Regulator reserves the right to interven in
the event that the agreement is not being reached soon
enought.

walu.


--- Alex Gakuru <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com> wrote:

> all networks interconnection are subject to CCK thus it
> has everything
> to do with them in fulfilling their legal mandate to
> protect consumers
> especially where outcry are so loud it break many high
> glass offices
> blocks. Further, TKL has been on the press stating
> otherwise. "In its
> letter to Mr John Waweru, the Communications Commission
> of Kenya
> director general, Telkom Kenya is accusing Safaricom of
> practising
> anti-competitive behaviour in the market -especially in
> the Short
> Messages Services (SMS) segment of the business."
>
http://www.bdafrica.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=3703&I
temid=5810
>
> High costs are relative so allow me to pass that
> questions
>
>
> On Nov 26, 2007 8:23 AM, Michael Joseph
> <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke> wrote:
> > It has got nothing to do with the CCK but is a
> commercial issue with TKL Kenya. Both parties are well
> aware of what has to be done and it is a matter of
> getting this concluded. Both mobile operators have the
> same issue.
> >
> > I do not know what high costs you are referring to.
> >
> > Michael
> >
> > CEO
> > Safaricom Limited
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
>
kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke
>
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke]
> On Behalf Of Alex Gakuru
> > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 8:16 AM
> > To: Michael Joseph
> > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New
> FrontierinTransformingPublic Services - 29th November
> 2007
> >
> > Hope is not a bad thing to have but just its just a
> wish. Until you
> > finally "finalise" the agreement completely then let
> high costs bite
> > deeper and deeper into our pockets.
> >
> > If we had a CCK that protected consumers this would
> have happened 2 months ago.
> >
> > Alex
> >
> > On Nov 26, 2007 8:06 AM, Michael Joseph
> <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > There is no blocking as such. Simply stated the
> agreements to open up the
> > > SMS interconnectivity have not been completed. We
> hope that this will be
> > > done soon.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Michael
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > CEO
> > >
> > > Safaricom Limited
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  ________________________________
> > >
> > >
> > > From:
>
kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke
> > >
>
[mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke]
> On
> > > Behalf Of robert yawe
> > >  Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:50 AM
> > >  To: Michael Joseph
> > >
> > >  Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> > >  Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New
> Frontier
> > > inTransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > >  I am unable to send an SMS from my safaricom line to
> CDMA numbers.  Who is
> > > responsible for making sure that we are not blocked
> from sending messages
> > > across networks.
> > >
> > >  Regards
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Robert Yawe
> > >  KAY System Technologies Ltd
> > >  Phoenix House, 6th Floor
> > >  P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
> > >  KEnya
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Tel: +254722511225
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > >  From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke>
> > >  To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
> > >  Cc: bitange@jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy
> Discussions
> > > <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> > >  Sent: Friday, 23 November, 2007 11:20:03 PM
> > >  Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New
> Frontier in
> > > TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
> > >
> > >  Dear Yawe,
> > >  Welcome to KICTAnet.  Just wanted to know how you
> got to know that
> > >  Ministry of Information, CCK and ICT Board did not
> act on the
> > >  Safaricom/TKL sms issue?  Do you know the mandate of
> these "bodies"?  My
> > >  friend, in the past one year did you not come across
> the mention of the
> > >  ICT Bill?  I really want to be of help to you but
> first I want to
> > >  understand where you are coming from.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  Regards
> > >
> > >  Bitange Ndemo.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  > Hi All,
> > >  >
> > >  > I am new to this mailing list and  would like to
> start by saying
> > > something
> > >  > about myself.
> > >  >
> > >  > I am an Information Technology specialist with
> over 15 years experience
> > >  > which means I know how to use DOS, UNIX and other
> OS's that exist only on
> > >  > 5.25" floppy disks.  My area of specialisation is
> in design &
> > >  > implementation of local and wide area networks.
> > >  >
> > >  > On the issue of mGovernment I do agree that this
> is the next frontier but
> > >  > it is shocking, as usual, that we are not
> embracing the technology or
> > > even
> > >  > working to develop the necessary legislation to
> make it flourish.  AS
> > > many
> > >  > web site designers about WAP and they are lost, we
> are designing heavy
> > >  > sites that have no intelligence to identify the
> type of device accessing
>
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