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   1. Re: Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya (Ali Hussein)
   2. Re: Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya (Ngigi Waithaka)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 19:48:32 +0300
From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>
To: Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya
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Ngigi

Interesting question. My question to KFCB is:-

What makes them think they can regulate Netflix when they have been unable to Regulate torrents?

Ali Hussein
Principal
Hussein & Associates
+254 0713 601113 / 0770906375

Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
Blog: www.alyhussein.com

"Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi

Sent from my iPad

> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
>
> Ali,
>
> I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya without having to use those VPN accounts...
>
> Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be regulated?
>
> Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in Kenya by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require regulation?
>
> Rgds
>
>> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>> Ngigi
>>
>> Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday.
>>
>> Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them.
>>
>> Ali Hussein
>> Principal
>> Hussein & Associates
>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
>>
>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>> Skype: abu-jomo
>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com
>>
>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Listers,
>>>
>>> I just came across this
>>> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html
>>>
>>> Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to regulate Netflix.
>>>
>>> I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access it?
>>>
>>> When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I have ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves KFCB.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Waithaka Ngigi
>>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building
>>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000
>>> www.at.co.ke
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>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Waithaka Ngigi
> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building
> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000
> www.at.co.ke
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 2016 20:02:03 +0300
From: Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke>
To: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke>
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Netflix to be regulated by KFCB in Kenya
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Ali,

Any idea how DSTV is currently regulated? I can't seem to ever remember an
instance where anything DSTV broadcasted was regulated by KFCB...

I am actually thinking we'll get another Equitel<->Safcom fight with the
dominant player claiming that SIM Overlays are the "...current home of
insecurity..." (Just incase Safcom would like to know; that was sooo lame)

In this instance, it's most likely going to be, "...Netflix is here to mess
with our morals :-)..."


On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:

> Ngigi
>
> Interesting question. My question to KFCB is:-
>
> What makes them think they can regulate Netflix when they have been unable
> to Regulate torrents?
>
> *Ali Hussein*
> *Principal*
> *Hussein & Associates*
> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
>
> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>
> Skype: abu-jomo
>
> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
>
> Blog: www.alyhussein.com
>
> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking
> what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:41 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
>
> Ali,
>
> I am actually aware that you can now watch Netflix while IN Kenya without
> having to use those VPN accounts...
>
> Does that mean Netflix is operating IN Kenya and hence can be regulated?
>
> Suppose I stream Fifty Shades of Grey, which is currently banned in Kenya
> by KFCB, from a Netflix Server hosted in the US, does that require
> regulation?
>
> Rgds
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 7:16 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>
>> Ngigi
>>
>> Netflix is available in Kenya from yesterday.
>>
>> Good luck to KFCB trying to regulate them.
>>
>> *Ali Hussein*
>> *Principal*
>> *Hussein & Associates*
>> +254 0713 601113 / 0770906375
>>
>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>
>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>
>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>> <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
>>
>> Blog: www.alyhussein.com
>>
>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking
>> what no one else has thought".  ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 8 Jan 2016, at 7:07 PM, Ngigi Waithaka via kictanet <
>> kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Listers,
>>
>> I just came across this
>>
>> http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Corporate-News/Netflix-should-be-subjected-to-local-rating-standards/-/539550/3025624/-/br9ipaz/-/index.html
>>
>> Looks like the Kenya Film Classification Board (KFCB) wants to regulate
>> Netflix.
>>
>> I then wonder, is Netflix IN Kenya or is it allowing Kenyans to access it?
>>
>> When I think of DSTV, which I think is broadcast from SA, every film
>> classification is as per the classification in SA. I don't think I have
>> ever seen a film that implies a classification criteria that involves KFCB.
>>
>> --
>> *Regards,*
>>
>> *Wait**haka Ngigi*
>> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod
>> Building
>> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000
>> www.at.co.ke
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> kictanet mailing list
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>>
>> Unsubscribe or change your options at
>> https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com
>>
>> The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform
>> for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and
>> regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT
>> sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
>>
>> KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors
>> online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth,
>> share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do
>> not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> *Regards,*
>
> *Wait**haka Ngigi*
> Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod
> Building
> T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000
> www.at.co.ke
>
>


--
*Regards,*

*Wait**haka Ngigi*
Chief Executive Officer | Alliance Technologies | MCK Nairobi Synod Building
T +254 20 525 0750 |Office Mobile: +254 716 201061 | M +254 737 811 000
www.at.co.ke
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