Also, for future reference, France Telecom no longer exists: http://www.orange.com/en/group/France-Telecom-becomes-Orange I guess the newspapers need to catch up with these press releases :-) -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:32 PM, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com>wrote:
Yes, they have.
I know several pple using the 5K for 5Mbps.
On 29 August 2013 10:17, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com> wrote:
JTL Faiba does not have the 5K offer -- that is where the competition will beat them + it is a domestic service -- not offered to commercial buildings/premises - from what a sales/service rep told me early this year.
Blessings
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:08 PM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
My sentiments exactly. High quality fiber is the foundation of the Internet economy in Kenya and 1K per Mb is fine by global standards - there just needs to be more availability:
* This solution won't help everybody * This solution won't help the poor * This solution won't help the rural * This solution will empower the 1% of serious technology people in the main cities to create businesses and develop global-calibre skills ... and those businesses will be the bedrock that supports the three points above.
BTW, JTL Faiba offers fiber for those prices and it's very high quality with no caps as far as I can tell.
-- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 1:00 PM, S.M. Muraya <murigi.muraya@gmail.com>wrote:
Well noted Brian, though as Adam notes, fiber is the future. Orange is laying a good amount of Fiber now.
We need Orange Leadership to offer (Shared) Business Internet @ 5K (5Mbs) to 10K (10Mbs)
Caps if they must exist - 200GB for the 5K offer..... 500GB for the 10K offer.
Of course they need prompt to respond, precise/accurate customer service.
Blessings
Murigi / Stanley Muraya
*"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32*
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 12:22 PM, Brian Munyao Longwe < blongwe@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry Adam but I beg to differ.
1) You cannot compare the US copper plant with the Kenyan copper plant 2) One of the most valuable components of a copper plant is the right of way (wayleave) 3) TKL also owns/controls 40% of the TEAMS fiber optic cable 4) TKL has management rights for the National fibre backbone - NOFBI 5) TKL owns real estate in every county, district and sub-location in the country (it's branches and exchanges) 6) TKL holds a "basket" of licenses,along with frequencies that would arouse any telco in the world
Best regards,
Brian
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:39 AM, Adam Nelson <adam@varud.com> wrote:
Since when was a landline company a 'crown jewel'. It's 2013 and that company should just be left to fall apart on its own.
In the US, only 1 in 4 households will have a traditional landline by the end of the year:
http://www.salon.com/2013/07/09/telephone_companies_abandon_copper_phone_lin...
I presume the Kenyan rate is far below that but it seems like the focus should be on fiber and LTE and not worrying about dinosaurs like Kenya Telekom
-Adam -- Kili.io - OpenStack for Africa: kili.io Musings: twitter.com/varud <https://twitter.com/varud> About Adam: www.linkedin.com/in/adamcnelson
On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Dennis Kioko <dmbuvi@gmail.com>wrote:
> Telecom saga > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1942899757==" > > --===============1942899757== > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary=e89a8ff25178edaeec04e50f2353 > > --e89a8ff25178edaeec04e50f2353 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > I feel it's time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government > are just distracting the company and they now also look like the > company is fighting with patriotism by extension. > > Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet talk GoK for tax and other > incentives rather than arm twist it? > > Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ali Hussein > Sent: =E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 08:12 > To: Dennis Kioko Mbuvi > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions > Subject: [kictanet] CCK Denies being involved in Telkom Kenya/France > Telecom saga > Listers > > In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning and threat of > punitive > action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what it calls > 'unprocedural' > transfer of shares. > > In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right > thing. Lets > go one step further:- > > The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed > experiment > and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' back to the > Kenyan > People. > > > > http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost= > ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+cost=ly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html> > > * > * > > *Ali Hussein* > > *CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd* > > *Partner, Telemedia Africa Ltd > * > > > > Tel: +254713601113 > > Twitter: @AliHKassim > > Skype: abu-jomo > > LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim<; > http://ke.linkedin.com/in/al= > ihkassim> > > Blog: www.alyhussein.com > > > Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are > purely > mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the > organizations that I work with. > > --e89a8ff25178edaeec04e50f2353 > Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > <HTML><HEAD> > <META content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8" > http-equiv=3DContent-Type></HE= > AD> > <BODY> > <DIV> > <DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">I > feel it's= > time Orange ate the humble pie. This wars with government are just > distrac= > ting the company and they now also look like the company is fighting > with p= > atriotism by extension. <BR><BR>Wouldn't it be more easier to sweet > talk Go= > K for tax and other incentives rather than arm twist it? > <BR><BR>Sent from = > my Windows Phone</DIV></DIV> > <DIV dir=3Dltr> > <HR> > <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; > FONT-WEIGH= > T: bold">From: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: > Calibri,= > sans-serif"><A href=3D"mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke">Ali > Hussein</A></SPAN><BR>= > <SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; > FONT-WEIGH= > T: bold">Sent: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: > Calibri,= > sans-serif">=E2=80=8E29/=E2=80=8E08/=E2=80=8E2013 > 08:12</SPAN><BR><SPAN sty= > le=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: > bold">= > To: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: > Calibri,sans-serif"= > ><A href=3D"mailto:dmbuvi@gmail.com">Dennis Kioko > Mbuvi</A></SPAN><BR><SPAN= > style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif; > FONT-WEIGHT: bo= > ld">Cc: </SPAN><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: > Calibri,sans-se= > rif"><A href=3D"mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke">KICTAnet ICT > Policy D= > iscussions</A></SPAN><BR><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; > FONT-FAMILY: Calib= > ri,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Subject: </SPAN><SPAN > style=3D"FONT-SIZE:= > 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: Calibri,sans-serif">[kictanet] CCK Denies being > involve= > d in Telkom Kenya/France Telecom > saga</SPAN><BR><BR></DIV></BODY></HTML><di= > v dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" > style=3D"font-family:georgia,ser= > if">Listers<br><br>In an interesting twist CCK has issued a warning > and thr= > eat of punitive action against Telkom Kenya/France Telecom in what > it calls= > 'unprocedural' transfer of shares.<br> > <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" > style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif">= > In light of this I think CCK is stepping up and doing the right > thing. Lets= > go one step further:-<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" > style=3D"f= > ont-family:georgia,serif"> > The Government should face up to the fact that this was a failed > experiment= > and put in place mechanisms to return the 'crown jewel' > back to th= > e Kenyan People.<br><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" > style=3D"font-fa= > mily:georgia,serif"> > <br><a href=3D" > http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+pen= > alties+for+costly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://www.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+pen=alties+for+costly+share+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html> > ">http://w= > > ww.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+costly+share= > +deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html<http://ww.nation.co.ke/business/news/Telkom+Kenya+faces+penalties+for+costly+share=+deal/-/1006/1972054/-/n17yku/-/index.html></a><br > clear=3D"all"> > </div><div><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><b><span > style=3D"fon= > t-family:"Baskerville Old > Face","serif""><br></span></b= > ></font></p><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><b><span > style=3D"fo= > nt-family:"Baskerville Old Face","serif"">Ali > Hussein</span></b></font></p><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in > 0.0001pt"><font><b>= > <span style=3D"font-family:"Baskerville Old > Face","serif&quo= > t;">CEO, 3mice interactive media ltd</span></b></font></p><p > style=3D"margi= > n:0in 0in 0.0001pt"> > <font><b><span style=3D"font-family:"Baskerville Old > Face","= > serif""><b><span style=3D"font-family:"Baskerville Old > Face"= > ,"serif"">Partner, </span></b>Telemedia Africa > Ltd<br></span></b>= > </font></p> > <font> > > </font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in > 0.0001pt"><font>=C2=A0</font></p><p style= > =3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><span > style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif= > "><span>T<font>el: > +25471360<font>1113</font></font><br></span></span></fon= > t></p> > <p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><span > style=3D"font-family:georg= > ia,serif"><span>Twitter: > @AliHKassim</span><span></span></span></font></p><= > font><span style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif"> > > </span></font><p style=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><span > style=3D"fon= > t-family:georgia,serif"><span>Skype: > abu-jomo</span></span></font></p><p st= > yle=3D"margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><font><span > style=3D"font-family:georgia,se= > rif"><span>LinkedIn: <a href=3D"http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" > targe= > t=3D"_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a></span><a > href=3D"http= > ://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target=3D"_blank"><span > style=3D"color:wi= > ndowtext;text-decoration:none"></span></a></span></font></p> > <font><span style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif"></span></font><p > style=3D"m= > argin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"> > > </p><font><span style=3D"font-family:georgia,serif"><span>Blog: <a > href=3D"= > http://www.alyhussein.com" target=3D"_blank">www.alyhussein.com > </a><br><br>= > <br><font size=3D"1">Any information of a personal nature expressed > in this= > email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official > position= > s of the organizations that I work > with.</font></span></span></font><span s= > tyle=3D"font-size:11pt;font-family:"Baskerville Old > Face","s= > erif""></span><span style=3D"font-size:11pt"></span> > > <span style=3D"font-family:"Baskerville Old > Face","serif&quo= > t;"></span></div> > </div> > > --e89a8ff25178edaeec04e50f2353-- > > --===============1942899757== > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > _______________________________________________ > kictanet mailing list > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > Unsubscribe or change your options at > > https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dmbuvi%40gmail.com > > The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder > platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT > policy and regulation. 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