@Wash, Without attempting to read the mind of the DG, ask yourself why someone would wish to give you a license? SIMPLE ANSWER: So that they can have the authority to deny or revoke it under given conditions :-) Enough said. walu. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 11/27/14, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] Licensing Framework for .ke To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, November 27, 2014, 5:16 PM Well, we do know that we will not require CA to authorize how we manage our DNS servers.If that was to be true, it would amount to something else I'd rather not mention now. On 27 November 2014 at 17:03, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote: @Wash, @Mwendwa I totally agree with your explanations. The "intention" and perhaps the spirit of the regulatory clause is to stop at the "first" level sub-domain as you explain. BUT when push comes to shove, nothing stops the legal interpretation to include "subsequent" level subdomains like town.mmu.ac.ke. How deep does the sub-domain clause cover? Perhaps for the avoidance of doubt, the clause could be revised to explicitly sate the "first" level subdomains. The devil lies is in the details. walu. -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 11/27/14, Odhiambo Washington <odhiambo@gmail.com> wrote: Subject: Re: [kictanet] Licensing Framework for .ke To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com>, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, November 27, 2014, 3:21 PM On 27 November 2014 at 14:47, Walubengo J via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: @Ali, Deja vu! (excuse my french :-) I warned you guys many months ago @ http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/blogs/dot9/Kenyas-Internet-Domain-Set-for-a-Sha... or @ http://tinyurl.com/l7o5ssl Anyway, here is snapshot of one of the clauses in the Regulations (2010) being applied now and I quote >>(2) A person shall not create a new sub - domain under the Kenya country code Top Level Domain without the approval of the >>Commission. Meaning that If I run the university mmu.ac.ke domain, and need to create a domain from our town branch as in town.mmu.ac.ke I have to run to my good friend the DG, Wangusi to grant me the permission. I am sure he will give me the permission but the bigger question is why should I ask? Walu, I am 100% sure you have misinterpreted that clause! My understanding of it is that you cannot create something like .TV.ke or .MOBI.ke without the consent of that dragon called CA. The dragon will decide on what gets created besides .or.ke and such like.However, once you have walu.or.ke the dragon has not power (moral authority or whatever) to stop you from creating kanduyi.walu.or.ke unless they also want to come and manage your DNS servers. -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler." -- Best regards, Odhiambo WASHINGTON, Nairobi,KE +254733744121/+254722743223 "I can't hear you -- I'm using the scrambler."