Hi

As a sign of good will and intention Mr. Joseph should open up the connection, and if this will result in an illegality have it be provided by a 3rd party temporarily until the legal hurdle is resolved.

When you make someone from Mandara have to travel from Mandera to Nairobi just to confirm their electoral details is inhuman and negates your so called SOCIAL RESPONSIBILITY programs.

Regards
 
Robert Yawe
KAY System Technologies Ltd
Phoenix House, 6th Floor
P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
KEnya
 
Tel: +254722511225


----- Original Message ----
From: Alex Gakuru <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com>
To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Sent: Monday, 26 November, 2007 8:15:41 AM
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier inTransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007

Hope is not a bad thing to have but just its just a wish. Until you
finally "finalise" the agreement completely then let high costs bite
deeper and deeper into our pockets.

If we had a CCK that protected consumers this would have happened 2 months ago.

Alex

On Nov 26, 2007 8:06 AM, Michael Joseph <MJoseph@safaricom.co.ke> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> There is no blocking as such. Simply stated the agreements to open up the
> SMS interconnectivity have not been completed. We hope that this will be
> done soon.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> CEO
>
> Safaricom Limited
>
>
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>  ________________________________
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> From: kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke
> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+mjoseph=safaricom.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On
> Behalf Of robert yawe
>  Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:50 AM
>  To: Michael Joseph
>
>  Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
>  Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier
> inTransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
>  I am unable to send an SMS from my safaricom line to CDMA numbers.   Who is
> responsible for making sure that we are not blocked from sending messages
> across networks.
>
>  Regards
>
>
>
>
> Robert Yawe
>  KAY System Technologies Ltd
>  Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>  P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>  KEnya
>
>
>
>
>
> Tel: +254722511225
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
>  From: "bitange@jambo.co.ke" <bitange@jambo.co.ke>
>  To: robert yawe <robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk>
>  Cc: bitange@jambo.co.ke; KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
> <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>  Sent: Friday, 23 November, 2007 11:20:03 PM
>  Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in
> TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
>
>  Dear Yawe,
>  Welcome to KICTAnet.  Just wanted to know how you got to know that
>  Ministry of Information, CCK and ICT Board did not act on the
>  Safaricom/TKL sms issue?  Do you know the mandate of these "bodies"?   My
>  friend, in the past one year did you not come across the mention of the
>  ICT Bill?  I really want to be of help to you but first I want to
>  understand where you are coming from.
>
>
>
>  Regards
>
>  Bitange Ndemo.
>
>
>
>
>  > Hi All,
>  >
>  > I am new to this mailing list and  would like to start by saying
> something
>  > about myself.
>  >
>  > I am an Information Technology specialist with over 15 years experience
>  > which means I know how to use DOS, UNIX and other OS's that exist only on
>  > 5.25" floppy disks.  My area of specialisation is in design &
>  > implementation of local and wide area networks.
>  >
>  > On the issue of mGovernment I do agree that this is the next frontier but
>  > it is shocking, as usual, that we are not embracing the technology or
> even
>  > working to develop the necessary legislation to make it flourish.   AS
> many
>  > web site designers about WAP and they are lost, we are designing heavy
>  > sites that have no intelligence to identify the type of device accessing
>  > the site and thus adjust the page to display better on the particular
>  > device.
>  >
>  > It is interesting that CCK and the Ministry of Information plus the ICT
>  > Board can sit back when the fight between Telkom and Safaricom on the
>  > delivery of SMS messages across the network continues to deny the tax
>  > payer (excise duty on airtime).  Or the fact that none of the mentioned
>  > felt it necessary to educate Mr. Kivuitu on the need to make live
>  > electoral database available over SMS.
>  >
>  > Now if we cannot take advantage of this opportunity to create local
>  > content and utilise mGovernment how can we entrust this "bodies" (which
>  > interestingly refers to expired humans) with making the marine cable a
>  > viable project.  Maybe we should cancel the project and use the money to
>  > put up a technology park in Mandera and Garsen.
>  >
>  > We do not need to recreate the wheel, just visit yahoomobile,
>  > googleearthmobile, or if you have a GPRS enabled phone try
>  > wap.mystocks.co.ke.  Or next time you are going up towards NIC on Bunyala
>  > Road look at the Nokia advert.
>  >
>  > The mobile phone is the future let embrace it or perish.
>  >
>  > Robert Yawe
>  > KAY System Technologies Ltd
>  > Phoenix House, 6th Floor
>  > P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200
>  > KEnya
>  > Tel: +254722511225
>  >
>  > ----- Original Message ----
>  > From: Harry Hare <harry@africanedevelopment.org>
>  > To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk
>  > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>  > Sent: Monday, 19 November, 2007 6:16:53 PM
>  > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Mobile Government: The New Frontier in
>  > TransformingPublic Services - 29th November 2007
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
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>  >
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>  > Dear Kwach,
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > I agree with you and it is equally
>  > interesting to note that some mobile applications are already being
>  > implemented…I
>
>
>  > dare say that this part of the world will see more mGovernment in the G2C
>  > (Government
>  > to Citizens) arena than the traditional eGovernment where the PC is the
>  > main service
>  > delivery channel. Most welcome to attend the session.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Kindest regards
>  >
>  >
>  > Harry
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > From: Kwach
>  > [mailto:kwach@archway-productions.com]
>  >
>  > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007
>  > 5:51 PM
>  >
>  > To: 'Harry Hare'
>  >
>  > Cc: 'KICTAnet ICT Policy
>  > Discussions'
>  >
>  > Subject: RE: [kictanet] Mobile
>  > Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th
>  > November
>  > 2007
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Hi Harry,
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > These are interesting statistics and
>  > scenario. For developing countries, there is urgent need to move from
>  > quantity
>  > to quality. In my view, content is the quality because more 65% of
> mobiles
>  > are
>  > only meeting social needs and costs involved have got no direct linkage
> to
>  > revenue for the owners, which should be a great concern.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > With Mobile Government, time and resources
>  > used in the rural to the say Government offices miles away would be
>  > deployed in
>  > other economic activities.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > I am keen to attend.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Kwach Akich
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > From: kictanet-bounces+kwach=archway-productions.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke
>  >
> [mailto:kictanet-bounces+kwach=archway-productions.com@lists.kictanet.or.ke]
>  > On Behalf Of Harry Hare
>  >
>  > Sent: Monday, November 19, 2007
>  > 8:49 AM
>  >
>  > To: kwach@archway-productions.com
>  >
>  > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy
>  > Discussions
>  >
>  > Subject: [kictanet] Mobile
>  > Government: The New Frontier in TransformingPublic Services - 29th
>  > November
>  > 2007
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Dear Colleagues,
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Mobile services are
>  > quickly emerging as the new frontier in transforming government and
> making
>  > it
>  > even more accessible and citizen-centric by extending the benefits of
>  > remote
>  > delivery of government services and information to those who are unable
> or
>  > unwilling to access public services through the Internet or simply prefer
>  > to
>  > use mobile devices. In theory, many government services can be now made
>  > available on a 24x7x365 basis at any place in the country covered by
>  > mobile
>  > networks, which today means almost everywhere! Michael, correct me if Im
>  > wrong.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > It is from this
>  > background that the World Bank in partnership with eGovWorld 2007
>  > (www.egovworld.com) and African
>  > eDevelopment Resource Centre presents a dialogue on Mobile Government
>  > (mGovernment) on 29th November 2007, 4.30pm -7.00pm at the World
>  > Bank offices, Nairobi. The dialogue is live Video Conference and an
>  > integral
>  > part of the eGovWorld 2007 conference taking place in
>  >  India 29-30 November 2007.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > According to the ITU,
>  > the total number of mobile users worldwide as of late 2006 was about 2.7
>  > billion and the number of internet users was just above 1.1 billion. This
>  > means
>  > that there is 33.6%  of world population (and 22.2% of developing
>  > countries population) who already have mobile phones but are not yet
> using
>  > the
>  > Internet.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >  Does
>  >      this provide a strong case for leveraging the mobile channel to
>  >      dramatically improve access to public services, including electronic
>  >      government services to those who can afford to use a personal or
>  > shared
>  >      mobile phone?
>  >  Does
>  >      this create an opportunity to connect in the near future the next
> two
>  >      billion people to some of the benefits of e-government, e-health,
>  >      e-education, e-banking and e-commerce?
>  >  How
>  >      exactly can Mobile Government change the lives of common people in
>  >      developing countries? What are best examples of such impact?
>  >  What
>  >      are the key constraints to making this vision a reality?
>  >  How
>  >      should governments change the way they do business to take advantage
>  > of
>  >      mobile technologies?
>  >  What
>  >      is the role of the private sector? Are there successful business
>  > models
>  >      (e.g. PPP) for private sector companies to deliver value-added
>  >      m-government services?
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > These are some of the
>  > questions that will be addressed.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Participation to the
>  > event is free; however, one needs to register to get access to the venue.
>  > If
>  > you are interested in participating send an email directly to
>  > susan@africanedevelopment.org
>  > for a registration form. Space is limited at the venue, only 20 places
> are
>  > available and will be given out on a first-come-first-served basis.
>  > Deadline
>  > for registration is Wednesday 22nd November.
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Program:
>  >
>  >
>  > +++++
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Welcome
>  > & Introduction
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Samia
>  > Melhem, Senior Operations Officer, Global ICT, World Bank; and
>  > Chair, e-Development Thematic Group
>  >
>  >
>  > Vikas
>  > Kanungo, Chairman, The Society for Promotion of
>  > e-Governance, India & Convener, eGovWorld 2007
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Opening
>  > Remarks/Keynote address
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > R.
>  > Chandrashekhar, Additional Secretary (e-Governance),
>  > DIT, Government of India
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Speakers
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Ibrahim
>  > Kushchu, Associate Professor and Director,
>  > Mobile Government Consortium International & Author, "m-Government: An
>  > Emerging Direction in e-Government",
>  >  UK
>  >
>  >
>  > Hannes
>  > Astok, Member of Parliament & former Deputy Mayor,
>  >  City of Tartu ,
>  >  Estonia
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  > Kindest Regards
>  >
>  >
>  > Harry Hare
>  >
>  >
>  > Executive Director
>  >
>  >
>  > African eDevelopment
>  > Resource Centre
>  >
>  >
>  > 3rd Floor,
>  >  Nelleon Place ,
>  >  Raphta Road ,
>  > Westlands
>  >
>  >
>  > PO Box 49475
>  > 00100, Nairobi
>  >
>  >
>  > Tel +254 20 4453445
>  >
>  >
>  > Cel +254 725 650044
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
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