Hallo Ali, Good questions and food for thought. We probably will compromise on a steering committee that encampasses all but it helps to give the how some thought. kind regards Fiona Asonga Chief Executive Officer Telecommunications Service Providers Association of Kenya/ Kenya Internet Exchange Point Co-ordinator of Membership and Communication of the Africa Computer Emergency Response Team NRO Number Council http://www.nro.net/about/number-council.html ASO Address Council http://aso.icann.org/ac/ 14 th Floor, Bruce House Standard Street Tel: +254 20 2245 036 Cell: +254 721 713 504 Website: www.tespok.or.ke “Industry voice in Telecommunications, Providing Policy and Direction within the Industry and Government” ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ali Hussein" <ali@hussein.me.ke> To: tespok@tespok.co.ke Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Sent: Friday, April 12, 2013 5:14:57 PM Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants Robert/Tejpal My point exactly...may I add Computer Society of Kenya? Drake? At the risk of sounding like a broken LP (those of you who are over 40 may remember that word) :) there really isn't one Industry Body that can say they speak for all the industry in one voice.. How can we serve the industry with one voice? Marketers have The Marketing Society of Kenya (MSK) PR Professionals have the Public Relations Society of Kenya (PRSK) Lawyers have Law Society of Kenya (LSK) And the list goes on.. Which one of these do we accept/adopt and then strengthen?? Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd +254 773/713 601113 "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb Sent from my iPad On Apr 12, 2013, at 4:22 PM, robert yawe < robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk > wrote: Kenya ICT Federation Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 From: Ali Hussein < ali@hussein.me.ke > To: robert yawe < robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk > Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > Sent: Friday, 12 April 2013, 12:35 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants Brilliant idea Robert. The issue I see is under what organisation/association should we do this under? Ali Hussein CEO | 3mice interactive media Ltd Principal | Telemedia Africa Ltd +254 773/713 601113 "The future belongs to him who knows how to wait." - Russian Proverb Sent from my iPad On Apr 12, 2013, at 12:07 PM, robert yawe < robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk > wrote: Hi listers, Is it possible for us to draft a proposal to the government on how we feel the initiative should be implemented and then arrange to have it presented to the President, great opportunity to become relevant? Regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 From: robert yawe < robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk > To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > Sent: Thursday, 11 April 2013, 17:12 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants @Edith , Details on this initiative please Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 From: Edith Adera < eadera@idrc.ca > To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2013, 23:59 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants Gilda, Building the foundation bottom-up (class 1) is very important, can’t be under-rated. That will be creating a new digital generation from the “roots”. Sega Silicon Valley has tested this at Kogere primary school and surrounding schools and the impact is amazing. From bottom of the pile, Kogere school rose up to top 5 in the area and the kids are amazing – they self-learn and do fascinating stuff with computers! Edith From: kictanet [ mailto:kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke ] On Behalf Of Gilda Odera Sent: April 10, 2013 12:06 PM To: Edith Adera Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Subject: [kictanet] Fwd: Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants Regards, Gilda Odera Begin forwarded message: From: Gilda Odera < godera@skyweb.co.ke > Date: April 10, 2013 12:02:14 PM GMT+03:00 To: robert yawe < robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants Listers, My recommendation is that this project should start from Form 1. Reasons: 1. We need to generate interest and start building that capacity base ASAP. Waiting for the standard ones to finish school is way too long. 2. Given the tight budgets the country is currently facing in implementing the constitution, it is wiser to work with less numbers yet still achieve the desired outcome as things settle down over the next five years. 3. Once successful in high schools, the project can be rolled to primary schools. By then, results of giving the high school students laptops will be evident and there should be sufficient budgets to roll both. In my view, capacity building is urgent in the ICT industry and therefore this noble idea should prioritise those who are bound to start innovating and harnessing their skills- which really are high school students. My two cents. Regards, Gilda Odera On Apr 10, 2013, at 9:55 AM, robert yawe < robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk > wrote: Another reason why the laptop project is the future http://pandodaily.com/2013/04/05/ten-websites-that-teach-coding-and-a-bunch-... regards Robert Yawe KAY System Technologies Ltd Phoenix House, 6th Floor P O Box 55806 Nairobi, 00200 Kenya Tel: +254722511225, +254202010696 From: Walubengo J < jwalu@yahoo.com > To: robertyawe@yahoo.co.uk Cc: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke Sent: Wednesday, 10 April 2013, 8:40 Subject: Re: [kictanet] Laptops for 2014 class 1 entrants @Yawe, I was on travel (not to SA :-) but caught up with our two new Principals. Great speeches. But if there's someone already in the new Presidents kitchen cabinet plse pass the following news. Just drop the laptop business or at least modify it because of the following reasons. 1. Curriculum. Ok. So the kids have laptops next year. What to do with them? Play games, watch porn? In other words do we have an IT curriculum for these youngsters or we believe they will automatically become Bill Gates once we throw gadgets at them.? 2. IT Tea _______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/tespok%40tespok.co.ke The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.