@ali About service delivery... (i) We have the automation skills in Kenya. We are just too focused on ERP (financials/collections for our own needs). Less focused on customer/CRM infrastructure service automation. (ii) We need a working judiciary and law enforcement. To deal with fraud and other anti competitive practices. After 5+ years in Kenya why would any multinational building up local firms need to recommend foreign firms? What IP does Kenya gain when multinational firms (for decades) recommend foreign led firms for local projects? Regards Murigi / Stanley Muraya *"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32* On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 6:32 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Dorcas
I support you on this. It's not only about the capacity and memory, bandwidth etc. It's also about service delivery. We are far from there yet. Although I must say that a few new entrants are working hard towards serving the industry from a world class perspective. Of mention here is:-
1. Angani 2. kili.io
Work in progress but I applaud them for taking the leap.
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On Nov 13, 2014, at 3:35 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Ngigi
We are talking applications not websites. And data centres are not about processors, far from it.
Tell me more about the KDN and Safaricom data centre high availability. Real stuff i mean. I am happy to do a site visit.
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:57 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <ngigi@at.co.ke> wrote:
@Dorcas,
There are very few local websites that would need scalability past Duo CPU / Multi-core setups with good memory so i guess scalability is easily sorted or is a non-issue.
In terms of redundancy, two local sites would pull the trick very well IMO. Say KDN Data Center with Sfaricom Data Center as a hot backup.
Rgds
On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Dorcas Muthoni via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Adam
I would be keen to learn on any high-availability data centres that can scale locally. Yes, i challenge you give me a site visit!
Although i would prefer the services hosted in a local data centre, i am doubtful that we have any that would scale well.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It would also be nice to see it hosted in Kenya (or at least Europe):
18:27:44 ~ $ sudo mtr www.ecitizen.go.ke --report Start: Sat Nov 8 18:29:18 2014 HOST: adam-2.local Loss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst StDev 1.|-- 192.168.1.1 0.0% 10 1.5 1.8 1.1 3.1 0.3 2.|-- 192.168.201.1 0.0% 10 2.9 8.7 2.8 53.9 15.9 3.|-- 41.57.108.5 0.0% 10 2.4 4.7 2.4 19.2 5.2 4.|-- 41.222.8.217 0.0% 10 157.7 19.9 2.2 157.7 48.6 5.|-- 195.229.27.57 60.0% 10 59.0 59.7 59.0 60.4 0.0 6.|-- 195.229.0.89 0.0% 10 64.2 70.2 60.8 104.0 12.6 7.|-- pos0-15-0-0.palermo17.pal 0.0% 10 147.0 148.7 142.3 172.5 8.6 8.|-- xe-2-3-0.milano51.mil.sea 50.0% 10 165.4 167.7 164.8 177.2 5.3 9.|-- ntt-verio.milano51.mil.se 30.0% 10 171.6 189.6 170.7 228.1 24.2 10.|-- ae-20.r03.amstnl02.nl.bb. 0.0% 10 276.3 276.9 275.7 281.1 1.4 11.|-- ae-4.r23.amstnl02.nl.bb.g 0.0% 10 184.7 188.6 182.8 204.7 6.2 12.|-- ae-7.r21.asbnva02.us.bb.g 40.0% 10 259.4 265.6 258.7 297.6 15.7 13.|-- ae-0.r20.asbnva02.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 264.3 262.6 260.3 266.1 2.1 14.|-- ae-8.r23.nycmny01.us.bb.g 20.0% 10 273.6 273.5 265.7 314.9 16.9 15.|-- ae-3.r20.chcgil09.us.bb.g 0.0% 10 279.2 283.6 278.9 302.5 7.7 16.|-- ae-1.r06.chcgil09.us.bb.g 10.0% 10 279.7 280.5 278.8 285.2 1.8 17.|-- ae-0.gtt-offnet.chcgil09. 10.0% 10 293.1 295.7 288.3 335.4 15.1 18.|-- ae4.cr1.ord6.us.scnet.net 11.1% 9 299.0 294.1 291.7 299.0 2.5 19.|-- ae3.ar7.ord6.us.scnet.net 22.2% 9 297.1 295.1 294.0 297.1 1.2 20.|-- server.perihelionwebdesig 11.1% 9 294.4 295.8 294.4 297.5 0.9 18:29:36 ~ $
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On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 6:02 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Adam
Great points. I think if the designers were looking at (in my humble opinion) emulating the Estonia and Singapore case studies then they are on to a great start. I'm thinking also (not sure though as it might just be serendipity) that they are using an iterative process to develop this.
One thing that definitely is a major UP is the use of local IP to develop the payment gateway!
Great start Team Kenya Government!
Regards
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On Nov 8, 2014, at 12:45 PM, Adam Nelson via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
It looks great and well designed. Two comments:
1. This site should really be https everywhere. I see that the form submits to an https site but how does one validate that ahead of time without looking at the source? 2. I know it's 'eCitizen' but it would be nice if this worked for legal residents as well. Most legal residents don't have an ID that works in that system unfortunately.
Otherwise, great stuff!
Cheers, Adam
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On Sat, Nov 8, 2014 at 10:58 AM, Gideon via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
+ Aly, Walu, Dorcas for these observations,
First off i appreciate that we are having such an encouraging conversation about the eCitizen government portal, for those who have had first hand experience on it. I think it is important to see that these comments will help improve the services and also express the fact that it is functional.
I encourage that we continue to give our comments so that we can see the improved use of ICT's in government.
Regards Gideon Rop DCA
> Hi All, > > Wanted to pass a thumbs up to the ICT Authority Team, i used the > eCitizen > portal to apply for a duplicate DL recently. > > All worked out very well. > > Thumbs up to the Pesapal team, that payment went very well! > > NTSA customer service was great. > > Times tower 3rd Floor team was bit slow, i forgive them as i got our > old > paper booklet DL version for the replacement. > > I did not leave my desk to have these going which was even greater! > My > messenger collected the DL painlessly too. > > Kudos to all behind the work. I guess Dr. Matiang'i, Victor, Dr. > Getao, > Harry, Mugambi and entire team. > > -- > Muthoni > > My Blog: http://rugongo.blogspot.com/ > -------------------------------------------- > Mahatma Gandhi once said:- > > First they ignore you, > Then they laugh at you, > Then they fight you, > AND THEN YOU WIN!!! >