Hello listers! An interesting reading: https://afilias.info/blogs/web-icanns-first-test-accountability Regards Bonface Witaba Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Tue, 15 Nov, 2016 at 9:27, kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke<kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Send kictanet mailing list submissions to kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke You can reach the person managing the list at kictanet-owner@lists.kictanet.or.ke When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of kictanet digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Permission Marketing and misuse of customer data by Telcos (Ali Hussein) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2016 09:22:51 +0300 From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Permission Marketing and misuse of customer data by Telcos Message-ID: <04BC1872-53E0-4722-B6AD-3BC294F90574@hussein.me.ke> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" :-) Public Service bro..:-) Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113 Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi Sent from my iPad
On 15 Nov 2016, at 8:55 AM, Tony White via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Ali, ...but what a performance! How much time did you spend on sorting it out and 'getting your money back'? You should also be compensated (at your hourly rate) for your time! ;)
Cheers, Tony
On 15/11/2016, Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: Rosemary and all
Nancy Matimu, Safaricom's Consumer Head of Products has been super responsive to my complaints and I'm happy to say that all the subscriptions that I had purported to have subscribed to have been deleted and monies refunded. Further more Nancy has promised to:-
1. Deal with such complaints with her team. 2. Promised to look into rogue activity by their Content Partners and take stern action against any culprits. 3. Hold a meeting with all their partners at the end of this month to sensitize them and warn them against such rogue activities.
I'd encourage all of us to engage her team in rooting out this illegal activity.
We need more of these interactions between consumers and companies like Safaricom.
Thank you all.
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
"Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi
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On 14 Nov 2016, at 12:13 PM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Rosemary
Can't agree with you more. Safaricom has engaged but I feel that this issue is. Dry widespread. Action needs to be taken..
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim Skype: abu-jomo LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
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On 14 Nov 2016, at 11:54 AM, Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu <chemukoechk@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Listers,
I have also fallen victim to the gaming charges which were apparently approved online. The following must happen:-
1. Regular updates of all the services one is subscribed to and it should not be the responsibility of the user to inquire.
2. All other suppliers send regular updates on charges for services/goods consumed, there is absolutely no reason why charges should be made blindly. Telcos el al are not exempt.
3. Failure to the above then we have the right to take legal action against all the parties involved in this rip off. There's clearly an abuse of consumer rights and misuse of customers' private information.
Kind regards,
Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu.
On 14 Nov 2016 11:37, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: It would really help to get a comment from the following players:-
1. Telcos 2. PRSPs/CSPs 3. Regulator
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113
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On 14 Nov 2016, at 11:19 AM, Victor Kapiyo via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Looks like this isn't an isolated event, but could point to a more far reaching abuse of consumer rights. Kindly follow up with your provider as Ali and I would suggest that the regulators and the licencees thoroughly investigate this and provide direction.
Victor
> On 14 Nov 2016 11:06, "Collins Areba via kictanet" > <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: > See attached. > >> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 10:23 AM, Collins Areba >> <arebacollins@gmail.com> wrote: >> I have airtel data Sim cards and on inspecting the messages, was >> subscribed to and receive weekly deductions on some weird competition >> I hardly would have subscribed. And these are data lines purely used >> for data. >> >> >>> On 14 Nov 2016 09:53, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" >>> <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>> Listers >>> >>> Good to report that Safaricom has engaged. Hopefully we should >>> resolve this soon. >>> >>> Ali Hussein >>> Principal >>> Hussein & Associates >>> +254 0713 601113 >>> >>> Twitter: @AliHKassim >>> Skype: abu-jomo >>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim >>> >>> >>> "Discovery consists in seeing what everyone else has seen and >>> thinking what no one else has thought". ~ Albert Szent-Gy?rgyi >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On 14 Nov 2016, at 9:04 AM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet >>>> <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Ali, >>>> >>>> To say the least this is unethical. It would be great to hear what >>>> Safaricom has to say about the same. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>>> On 11/14/16, WANGARI KABIRU via kictanet >>>>> <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>> Blessed Monday! >>>>> Is there a chance that you may even be subscribed and not get the >>>>> prompt and >>>>> the deductions happen? >>>>> Is this in the line of Internet "un"Governance whereby your data >>>>> is mined >>>>> for high value without your express consent or being >>>>> paid/compensated for >>>>> it. >>>>> Be blessed. >>>>> Regards/Wangari --- >>>>> Pray God Bless. 2013Wangari circa - "Being of the Light, We are >>>>> Restored >>>>> Through Faith in Mind, Body and Spirit; We Manifest The Kingdom of >>>>> God on >>>>> Earth". >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, 14 November 2016, 7:55, Collins Areba via kictanet >>>>> <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Very unfair, especially when they relegate the responsibility of >>>>> unearthing >>>>> if it is a scam to the consumers! >>>>> On 14 Nov 2016 06:08, "Ali Hussein via kictanet" >>>>> <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Dear All >>>>> I woke up this morning to find myself registered by a Telco for a >>>>> service I >>>>> do not want. >>>>> [5:59 AM, 11/14/2016] +254 713 601113: You have successfully >>>>> subscribed to >>>>> the SKIZA Tunes service.Your password to log on to >>>>> www.skiza.safaricom.com >>>>> is xxxx. [5:59 AM, 11/14/2016] +254 713 >>>>> 601113: Your >>>>> SKIZA Tune <Customized Skiza Tune> was set successfully. >>>>> [5:59 AM, 11/14/2016] +254 713 601113: You have successfully >>>>> downloaded >>>>> SKIZA Tune Customized Skiza Tune .The tune will be renewed at KES >>>>> 1.00 >>>>> daily.To delete dial *811#. >>>>> >>>>> I thought these things shouldn't happen anymore? >>>>> Why would Safaricom tell me that I have subscribed to SKIZA Tune >>>>> when I did >>>>> not? And proceed to tell me they will deduct Kshs. 1 per day for >>>>> this? 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