Hi All,
Came across this interesting piece and thought members could have a look.
http://politics.nationmedia.com/Blog/default.asp?Display=294
Regards,
Jotham
--- On Fri, 7/4/08, Leonard Mware <mleonardo@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Leonard Mware <mleonardo@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Lets stick to the ICT Policy Agenda To: jokilimo@yahoo.com Cc: "New Vision List" <newvisionkenya@yahoogroups.com>, "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, July 4, 2008, 5:33 AM
A cross post.
Alex Gakuru <alex.gakuru@yahoo.com> wrote: List policy certainly now re-railed. We do not wish anyone to unsubscribe. Wish you also moderatorly issue the command chmod "lurk" to 777 for another;)
Chao,
--- On Thu, 7/3/08, John Walubengo wrote:
> From: John Walubengo > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Lets stick to the ICT Policy Agenda > To: alex.gakuru@yahoo.com > Cc: "New Vision List" , "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" > Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 12:09 AM > Shem, Alex et al, > > Am not sure if this is the right forum to discuss or > speculate on who is the bigger thief within the ICT > industry. And if someone wishes to go in the
direction, > they must do so on conclusive evidence or at least try to > find a way to tie (disguise?) that discussion towards ICT > Policies - e.g. what ICT Policies need to be in place to > pre-empt such recurrence. > > If we dont stick to these guidelines, I foresee a lot of > members un-subscribing...starting with me. > > walu. > By the Way: I do love juicy stories, I just dont think that > this is the space for them. > > --- On Thu, 7/3/08, Shem Ochuodho > wrote: > > > From: Shem Ochuodho > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Bulk of KenyanWealth > Owned by Foreigners > > To: jwalu@yahoo.com > > Cc: "New Vision List" > , "KICTAnet ICT > Policy Discussions" > > > Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 10:41
AM > > Gakuru, > > > > I took the State to court 4 years ago; the matter has > never > > been heard. Unfortunately, being in court, it even > can't > > be discussed openly. They control the courts. If there > is > > anything more you know than I do, I would like to hear > it. > > So/And that would be a wrong excuse not to ask > queries. > > > > Shem > > > > --- On Thu, 7/3/08, Alex Gakuru > > wrote: > > > > From: Alex Gakuru > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Bulk of KenyanWealth > Owned by > > Foreigners > > To: shemochuodho@yahoo.com > > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" > > > > Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 12:58 AM > > > > Did the pipeline matter end to
cast the first stone? > > > > --- On Wed, 7/2/08, Shem Ochuodho > > wrote: > > > > > From: Shem Ochuodho > > > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] Fwd: Bulk of KenyanWealth > > Owned by Foreigners > > > To: alex.gakuru@yahoo.com > > > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" > > > > > Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 8:30 AM > > > I hope PS Ndemo is/has been watching the > proceedings > > in > > > Parliament (re Hon. Kimunya Censor Debate re > Grand > > Regency, > > > Safaricom IPO, Telkom Kenya, etc!!!). > > > > > > Shem > > > > > > --- On Sun, 6/29/08, wesley kiriinya > > > wrote: > > > > > > From: wesley
kiriinya > > > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] {Disarmed} Re: > > [NewVisionKenya] > > > Fwd: [africa-oped] Bulk of KenyanWealth Owned by > > Foreigners > > > To: "Shem Ochuodho" > > > > > > Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" > > > > > > Date: Sunday, June 29, 2008, 8:30 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "...Way forward, mobilize resources the > > Transcentury > > > way and buy out all that which is owned by > > foreiners. > > > They did not steal what they own. They simply > caught > > us > > > napping." > > > > > > Mmmhhh makes me wonder about this Grand Regency > thing. > >
And > > > many other things. > > > > > > --- On Sun, 6/22/08, bitange@jambo.co.ke > > > wrote: > > > > > > From: bitange@jambo.co.ke > > > > Subject: Re: [kictanet] {Disarmed} Re: > > [NewVisionKenya] > > > Fwd: [africa-oped] Bulk of KenyanWealth Owned by > > Foreigners > > > To: kiriinya2000@yahoo.com > > > Cc: "Kazi Afrika" > > > , > "KICTAnet > > ICT > > > Policy Discussions" > > > > > > Date: Sunday, June 22, 2008, 11:01 AM > > > > > > Although in telcom sector the law requiores local > > > partnership, what the research > > > is telling us is not a problem but an opportunity > that > > we >
> > must take advantage > > > of. The Tea estates referred to here have > changed > > hands > > > several times. It is > > > therefore > > > imperative that when they float them, we shall > > mobilize > > > resources to > > > buy them out. > > > > > > It is not enough to complain and leave the issue > to > > die. > > > There is need to > > > educate our people that in a capitalist economy, > there > > are > > > exit routs to pride > > > ourselves with ownweship of our properties. Some > > advamced > > > countries own far > > > less than 31 percent of their assets. > > > > > > We are fortunate that the investment bug has hit > Kenya > > if > > > Safaricom IPO
is > > >
anything to go by. Unless we want to radically > change > > our > > > economic orientation > > > with respect to ownership, which I know it is not > > possible, > > > there is nothing to > > > fuss about. > > > > > > Way forward, mobilize resources the Transcentury > way > > and > > > buy out all that which > > > is owned by foreiners. They did not steal what > they > > own. > > > They simply caught us > > > napping. > > > > > > Ndemo > > >_______________________________________________ > > kictanet mailing list > > kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke > > http://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet > > > > This message was sent to: jwalu@yahoo.com > > Unsubscribe or change your options
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