On 8/16/07, Benjamin Makai <benmakai@yahoo.com> wrote:

Dr.Ndemo

This information is very necessary and important. Kindly could you also outline to the level or rather phases pertaining the same sir.

This gives us the the auditable elements of the process for the few whom may not be aware of the process and yet they may want to shout loundest..

All is about the welfare of our countr y(personal sentiments and not about who shouts loundest and in some situations or least solutions. ICT is all bout solutions and world wide tested and proven best practices)

Regards

bitange@jambo.co.ke wrote:

Dear Alex,
I tried to explain how parliament works earlier in the week. We cannot
revise the bill here. We have taken the proposals to the committee for
consideration.

Luckily today the committee sumoned me to parliament. They want to have a
stakeholder's meeting either on Tuesady or Thursday next week in Mombasa.
I shall confirm this to you tomorrow. Any changes now must go through the
committee since the bill belongs to parliament. You have this window to
make the necessary changes. The safari Park proposals are already with
them but they may decide that they do not want to include them. This is
where we need the stakeholders to push.

I hope you do not leave this window of opportunity to pass and blame us
later.

Regards

Ndemo.

> Dr. Ndemo,
>
> You invited us to Safari Park Hotel and on information
> and belief, we were coming to meet the Parliament
> Committee. We understood your at the venue explanation
> why they could not come.
>
> However,
>
> Would you be in a position to inform stakeholders what
> to expect of our Safari Park contributions on the
> Kenya Communications Amendment Bill 2007? i.e. does
> the ministry have an "updated" version-considerate of
> expressed concerns? I am made to understand that a
> Bill's mover (who in this case is the Minister) is
> allowed to amend it anytime.
>
> This also would not only help us know where our
> concerns lay but it would also help us take informed
> engagements with the Energy and Communications
> Committee.
>
> I request for this information in view of your emailed
> informative note advising stakeholders on the law
> making processes, advising on the steps, when and
> where to engaging parliamentary committees in the
> process.
>
> Hope to hear from you.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Alex
>
> --- Brian Longwe wrote:
>
>> Thank you very much Bw. Ndemo for this clear,
>> concise and very
>> practical reminder of our legislative process (it's
>> amazing how
>> quickly we forget the stuff we learnt in pri/sec
>> school)!
>>
>> Rgds,
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> On Aug 14, 2007, at 1:41 PM, bitange@jambo.co.ke
>> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >
>> > Rebecca,
>> > I did not want to comment on the Demo but I think
>> the public is being
>> > misled here. What is the reasoning behind the
>> Demo when the
>> > Government
>> > has made it clear that the issue shall be looked
>> at? We delivered
>> > on all
>> > promises we made to the stakeholders and those who
>> bothered to read
>> > and
>> > seek dialog. I think by resorting into mob
>> psychology you risk
>> > eroding
>> > the confidence and and trust that we have built
>> over the past view
>> > years.
>> >
>> > Since we have another bill coming, I have decided
>> to present the
>> > lessons
>> > learnt (attached) from the Media Bill to avoid
>> such situation in
>> > the ICT
>> > Bill. It is important that we all understand the
>> legislative
>> > process in
>> > Kenya and it is only by making decisions based on
>> knowledge that we
>> > can
>> > develop a civilized nation.
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards
>> >
>> > Bitange Ndemo.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> in case yhou support journalists...
>> >> Hi all.
>> >> This is to inform you that we have already
>> notified the police
>> >> that we
>> >> shall be holding a peaceful procession as
>> indicated in Mbau's
>> >> email. We
>> >> have also dispatched a letter to the AG asking
>> him or his
>> >> representative
>> >> to wait for our petition on the appointed date.
>> Please send this
>> >> message
>> >> to as many journalists as you can.
>> >> Thank you.
>> >> _____________________________________________
>> >> From: Samuel Mbau
>> >> Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 12:23 PM
>> >> To: Julius Bosire; Owino Opondo; Editorial
>> >> Cc: Business Daily; Easy FM; eam; NTV News
>> >> Subject: SILENT DEMO
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Dear journalist,
>> >> The contentious clause 38 (4) in the Media Bill
>> states:
>> >> "When a story includes unnamed parties who are
>> not disclosed and
>> >> the
>> >> same becomes the subject of a legal tussle as to
>> who is meant,
>> >> then the
>> >> editor shall be obligated to disclose the
>> identity of the party or
>> >> parties referred to."
>> >> As members of the Fourth Estate who take it
>> upon ourselves to
>> >> fight for
>> >> the rights of others, we simply cannot afford to
>> sit down and do
>> >> nothing
>> >> while our own rights and a basic tenets of our
>> profession are at
>> >> stake.
>> >> The Silent Demo is on!
>> >> The ''Silent Demonstration'' will take place on
>> Wednesday August
>> >> 15,
>> >> with the blessings and the support from the
>> majority of media
>> >> houses and
>> >> associations as well as myriads of well wishers.
>> >> We shall assemble 8:30am at Freedom Corner at
>> Uhuru Park. We
>> >> will then
>> >> march to the AG's Chambers (via Kenyatta Ave- Moi
>> Ave- Harambee Ave)
>> >> where we will present a petition to the chief
>> legal adviser to the
>> >> Government and ask him to advise the President
>> against signing the
>> >> proposed law.
>> >> We shall then proceed to march around
>> Parliament two times before
>> >> breaking the demo at Freedom corner. The whole
>> programme should take
>> >> about two hours maximum.
>> >> The demo is silent for there will be no
>> chanting nor singing.
>> >> We will actually be quiet through out the march
>> and our mouths
>> >> gagged
>> >> with black cloth or duct tape. We can also adorn
>> black scarves, head
>> >> bands or arm bands.
>> >> So please bring along a gag, dress in your
>> organisation's
>> >> branded wear
>> >> [if available], AND remember to put on some
>> comfortable walking
>> >> shoes.
>> >> We are looking forward to your participation
>> and your
>> >> organisation's
>> >> support as we SILENCE this bad law.
>> >> NB: Watch out for a spectacular media showing
>> on that day.
>> >> Standing as one,
>> >> Inter-media committee
>> >>
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