Regulation in Kenya is usually misconceived, after all, this is the same country that has unsuccessfully tried to use the law to keep cheaper sugar away, rather than let market forces shape and run the sugar factories. Just because we come up with laws(based on our feelings and emotions, as opposed to hard logic) does not mean we are right. On Sat, 24 Jan 2015 08:30 K Machuhi via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
So Airtel wants regulation to fill in their gaps/ lack of innovation?
Simple things like understanding Kenyans 'peculiar habits' will help Airtel 22million times better than any regulation.
As a Kenyan, when will I see a Kenyan head of something at Airtel? Maybe a Kenyan will talk to subscribers in a language and nuance they understand...like Safaricom has done even with seemingly exploitative pricing.
With my 500 Safaricom shares and a dividend check of 34bob, I feel included when they say 'Safaricom ina wenyewe'. Am one of them. 'We' therefore are not exploiting or overcharging anybody. Just money from one of your pockets to another.
Mr. Airtel, do anything but until you appeal to my peculiar habits....! On 23 Jan 2015 17:22, "John Kariuki via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Ali,Listers The fundamental issue is not about Safaricom bashing. It is simply following the law and and asking the relevant authorities to invoke the relevant legal provisions including:
1. Kenya Communications Act 2009,Section 84W,sub-section (4) and (5) 2.Kenya Information and Communications (Fair Competition and Equality of Treatment) Regulations ,Sections 7 and 8 3.Competition Act of 2010 Section 4(3).
Under both pieces of legislation and from experience in other jurisdictions, Air-tel or any other applicant would appear have a very strong legal position.
John Kariuki
------------------------------ *From:* Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *To:* ngethe.kariuki2007@yahoo.co.uk *Sent:* Friday, 23 January 2015, 14:34 *Subject:* Re: [kictanet] Airtel writes to regulators over Safaricom's market share
Dennis
My point exactly. We need to stop this Safaricom bashing lest we forget we are in a free market.
Microsoft was once dominant. So is Google today. In search and Mobile Operating Systems.
Markets correct themselves. And faster than a New York Minute!
Customers can do what the CA can't do. Vote with their wallets. This is not to say that regulation is a bad thing. It's not. Declaring Safaricom dominant is not a bad thing. But let's be careful with the punitive measures.
Even China has recognized that Communism only works when it's paid for by Capitalism.
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On Jan 23, 2015, at 2:22 PM, Dennis Kioko via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Is there anything that CA can do for service providers that are having challenges:
- Communicating what they offer to the public and what differentiates them from their competitors - Coming up with relevant services rather than copy-paste offerings
Should an athlete ask an athlete's body to restrain one of the runners for winning too many races?
However, the athlete's body should be careful not to be misled by the successful athlete in a such manner they end up giving this athlete preferential treatment.
On Fri Jan 23 2015 at 10:35:50 Mwendwa Kivuva via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Good point Brian. It is without doubt Safaricom a.k.a Queen bee is OVER-EXPLOITING the market.
Somebody just has to look at their profits in a country whose per capita is only $2000. Their data prices especially, and money transfer cost are immoral for lack of a better word.
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On 22 January 2015 at 19:34, Brian Munyao Longwe via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Actually, this is quite a serious issue, it has been proven the world over that an operator with significant market power (SMP) needs strong regulatory measures to ensure that they do not over exploit the market, and more importantly quench healthy competition...
On Tuesday, January 20, 2015, Edith Adera via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Interesting indeed!
Need to study any "anti-competitive" behaviour and act....question is, will the regulator(s) act? Safaricom has its owners.
Consumer behavior also has a key role to play...I've argued that for years and if memory serves, Michael Joseph once said "Kenyans have peculiar habits". These habits play a BIG role in keeping the BIG player dominant!
Edith ------------------------------ *From:* kictanet <kictanet-bounces+eadera=idrc.ca@lists.kictanet.or.ke> on behalf of Ali Hussein via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> *Sent:* Monday, January 19, 2015 11:53 PM *To:* Edith Adera *Subject:* [kictanet] Airtel writes to regulators over Safaricom's market share
Listers
This is interesting.
Airtel Kenya has written to Communications Authority of Kenya (CA) and Competitions Authority of Kenya (CAK) asking that Safaricom be declared a dominant player in the market. Airtel Kenya, which is targeting a bigger share of the country's voice, SMS, data and mobile-money transfer business, claims Safaricom has been using its dominance to prevent others from growing their business. It is asking the two regulators to intervene and stop the telecommunications sector's slide into a monopoly where the market leader, allegedly has freedom to do whatever it wishes.
Read more at: http://www.standardmedia.co.ke/business/article/2000148531/airtel-writes-to-...
I'm curious as to what remedies there are in the act to reverse safaricom's dominance.
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