Barrack

I don't know about that. I'm curious, who on this list knew about this particular issue of storing our conversations? Maybe it was already hidden somewhere in the fine print of agreements but that's exactly the point. There's been a movement about simplifying these online agreements. Maybe it's time to push more for this?

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On 1 Jul 2016, at 1:01 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Ali,

Bearing in mind willing buyer, willing seller, don't you think there
are clients who are happy with the current state of things? should we
penalize businesses for infringement of  rights that have been
willingly waived by clients?

On 6/30/16, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
All

In relation to this, I discovered today that a lot of the privacy issues are
allegedly being violated by a certain global brand.

Google, could have a record of everything you have said around it for years,
and you can listen to it yourself.

The company quietly records many of the conversations that people have
around its products.

The feature works as a way of letting people search with their voice, and
storing those recordings presumably lets Google improve its language
recognition tools as well as the results that it gives to people.

Read on:-

http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/news/google-voice-search-records-and-stores-conversation-people-have-around-their-phones-but-files-can-be-a7059376.html

In relation to this discussion we would love to have a comment from the
Ministry and Google.

Ali Hussein
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Hussein & Associates
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On 30 Jun 2016, at 12:52 PM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet
<kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Great thanks Sam,

We will collate all the comments and forwad them to the Ministry.

Thank you

Best Regards

On 6/30/16, Sam Oduor <sam.oduor@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Barrack

A great comment has been posted on the Jadii Platform

June Tessy - a day ago Do we really need another 'specialized' agency
yet
there are already existing units in Government and Regulators that are
mandated to deal with these like the National Intelligence Service,
ICTA,
CA Perhaps building onto the already existing units in terms of
resources
and capacity may be more sustainable


On Thu, Jun 30, 2016 at 7:29 AM, Barrack Otieno via kictanet <
kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:

Listers,

Many thanks to those who contribued to day 6 discussions. The thread
is still open, we also encourage listers to edit the policy directly
on the Jadili platform
(http://jadili.ictpolicy.org/docs/kenya-ict-policy).

Today we focus on the following areas:


*Online Citizen Safety,
*Child Protection
*Privacy issues
*Security business transactions (Info-Security)
*Security & Reliability of Critical ICT infrastructure

The Background:

The more we automate and rely on digital services, the more vulnerable
we become as a  society to cybercrime and other threats facing the
digital society.

The regulator has a Computer Emergency Response Team (CERT), the
industry (TESPOK) also has a CERT, the  Department  of Criminal
Investigation & National Intelligence also have CERT. What is not
clear is whether  there is a framework to have these teams working
together and their capacity to counter a full-blown cyber attack
against our digital national assets.

Additionally, the tension between citizen privacy and national
security, citizen privacy and business (profit) concerns remain
perhaps due to lack of Data Protection, eTransaction and other laws.
Finally, special protection for vulnerable groups (children) going
online is non-existent.

What needs to be done around these issues?

Kindly submit your views.

Best Regards

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