The internet is neutral.....simple as that On 11 Jun 2017 07:19, <kictanet-request@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
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1. Re: Technology Giants Under Fire For Facilitating Terrorism (Ebele Okobi)
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Message: 1 Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2017 05:16:57 +0000 From: Ebele Okobi <ebeleokobi@fb.com> To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Technology Giants Under Fire For Facilitating Terrorism Message-ID: <A6EFDA54-83F5-49B5-92DF-99F94EEBAB2A@fb.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
This is interesting-but you reference Nigeria shutting down the Internet. This isn't something I am aware of-when did this happen? Also Boko Haram is actually known for not using the Internet almost at all. Lately, there have been very minor attempts likely driven by outside groups, but the Internet isn't really a vector for Boko Haram recruitment.
I'd be very interested in context on this statement.
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On Jun 11, 2017, at 1:52 AM, Andrew Alston via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
This may also be of interest?.
For those who want to say that the Internet is bad place, and contributing to the rise of extremist and the radicalization of people, and claiming that it is the driving force behind the terrorism we see today?. I was curious after reading Theresa May?s comments, and so I went and did some research and downloaded the global terrorism database, and started crunching numbers for Europe and the United States going back to 1970. (Sadly, I don?t have data for 2016 and 2017, but I think the trend is still pretty clear)
Attached is a graph of the number of deaths by terrorism in North America and Europe from 1970 to 2015 ? ou will notice that there is a steady downward trend ? and in the days *BEFORE* the Internet existed ? the rates of terrorism were actually *FAR* higher than what they are today. As someone commented on my facebook feed ? maybe it?s because the Internet helps us understand each other?s cultures rather than just considering them the enemy. Who knows ? but the fact is ? the arguments that are coming out about the Internet driving terrorism simply don?t add up with the numbers that are available.
I?ve got some more data that I?ll crunch in the next day or two and will share that as well ? specifically, I want to look and see if there is a rise in violent terrorist attacks in the global terrorism database that are preceded by Internet Shutdowns ? I know that I read that there is evidence that Nigeria turning off the Internet to combat Boko Haram contributed to more radicalization ? but will crunch the data and see what it says and share it with you when I get done.
Thanks
Andrew
From: kictanet [mailto:kictanet-bounces+andrew.alston=liquidtelecom. com@lists.kictanet.or.ke] On Behalf Of Ali Hussein via kictanet Sent: 11 June 2017 03:02 To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com<mailto:Andrew.Alston@ liquidtelecom.com>> Cc: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke<mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke>> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Technology Giants Under Fire For Facilitating Terrorism
Rosemary and all
I think articles like these hoodwink us into thinking that governments the world over are not already cooperating with big internet firms for National Security reasons. Citizens around the world are waking up to the stark reality of the choice between enhanced national security and personal privacy and choice.
It's a difficult situation. More amplified by how citizens react. Take for example the hullabaloo a few months back in Kenya when it was alleged that the CA was snooping on us. The outrage on social media was massive and sustained. Yet we have a real problem in Kenya where some groups in the name of religion spew hate and death liberally. Then there's the alleged vigilante on social media who goes out and deliberately metes out extrajudicial justice in the most brazen way imaginable and we cheer him/her. In the U.K. Theresa May's strategy of calling for an early election failed partly because young people (Millennials) voted in larger numbers to protest against proposed curbing of privacy online.
It's not an easy situation. Who polices the police? Who makes the choice between hate speech and genuine protest against oppression? Take for example the Mandela issue. Was he a terrorist or a hero?
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On 10 Jun 2017, at 7:03 PM, Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
Dear Listers,
There may be an emerging paradigm shift from the traditional intermidiary liability consensus.
http://www.economist.com/news/international/21723106-some- criticism-unfair-there-more-they-could-do-tech-giants-are- under-fire?fsrc=scn/fb/te/bl/ed/techgiantsareunderfireforfacil itatingterrorism<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/ url?u=http-3A__www.economist.com_news_international_ 21723106-2Dsome-2Dcriticism-2Dunfair-2Dthere-2Dmore- 2Dthey-2Dcould-2Ddo-2Dtech-2Dgiants-2Dare-2Dunder-2Dfire- 3Ffsrc-3Dscn_fb_te_bl_ed_techgiantsareunderfireforfacil itatingterrorism&d=DwMGaQ&c=5VD0RTtNlTh3ycd41b3MUw&r=ArvepG4_wcNu_X9xi3nb_ Xa9WsGLVfmK6mwPdVONOTE&m=OnUGIR8PmJQNXfwRQUnPt99pFv21nbkG7qj5XySQ9EY&s= DL6cDiAh6aaJysuLtrjsJOOpRHWgGqiyxIpSzVg1D0E&e=>,
Tech giants are now being forced to take up new responsibilities in the fight against terrorism.
Kind regards,
Rosemary Koech-Kimwatu On Jun 10, 2017 5:33 AM, "Timothy- Coach- Oriedo via kictanet" < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke<mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote: For the blockchain naysayers, this is for you....
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