Walubengo,
I have not seen the list yet but would want to know where Greece ranks.

Ndemo.

> Dr. Rigia,
>
> not to worry too much. These researchers have been declaring Kenya a
> failed state for the last consecutive 4yrs. It has not stopped the Chinese
> from coming to invest. So i think the rating does more harm to western
> investors than to ourselves (Kenyans).
>
> Meanwhile, we continue to enjoy scenic beaches, amazing wildlife and
> panoramic mountains and valleys. And I almost forgot - we continue leading
> the world on mobile money technologies and usage, not to mention soon to
> come Konza City (do I say?).
>
> So you see, I really do not to worry too much about these ratings (perhaps
> as someone said, they keep those NGO-types in business)
>
> walu.
>
> --- On Thu, 6/21/12, Warigia Bowman <warigia@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Warigia Bowman <warigia@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Failed States Index 2012 - Kenya #16, Somalia #1,
> Libya #50 (???),
> To: jwalu@yahoo.com
> Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
> Date: Thursday, June 21, 2012, 2:04 PM
>
> The list makes no sense, really. I am in Egypt, which is currently a
> military dictatorship, and yet it is ranked higher than Kenya, which in my
> view is a somewhat functional democracy with authoriarian elements. Yet
> the list gives Egypt a better score than Kenya. It is ridiculous.
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:29 PM, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com>
> wrote:
>
> Syria, 7 places adrift! With 17,000+ casualties, 35,000 wounded, and
> 250,000 refugees, and still fighting in the uprising, how can they be
> better than Kenya?
>
>
> On 21 June 2012 13:16, Kivuva <Kivuva@transworldafrica.com> wrote:
>
>
> Francis,
> Thank you for bringing this up. I think the ratings are more to do with
> perception than reality. Most of the negative that make us rank so poorly
> is our own creation. What about thousands of NGOs taking pictures of
> slums, drought and starving children then run to western donors begging
> for cash to "HELP" the poor they "REPRESENT"! This has ruined the
> developing world's image beyond measure. Our own PRESS is also a major
> problem. I don't see western country publish widely sensationalizing
> their homeless, street gangs, mafia, and grand grand corruption, as we do
> ours.
>
>
>
>
> In recent times, I have seen our leaders, including PS Ndemo insist on
> positive reporting from our media. That is the direction we should seek.
> If we instill cockiness in the direction of
> narcissism, then the west will stop taking us for granted.
>
> Self Love
>
> On 21 June 2012 10:47, Francis Hook <francis.hook@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Apologies this is not mainstream ICT but at the periphery some ICT
>
> aspects need to be considered as well...(open access to information,
>
> ICT enabling democracy/choice/transparency, ICT in corruption, etc) .
>
>
>
> This index is by the US group Fund for Peace. I wonder what metrics
>
> they are using or how they are weighting the values of the 13 indices
>
> they use.
>
>
>
> Kenya is ranked 16th...that's just 15 steps away from Somalia (???),
>
> 14 from DRC and shares the "teens" positions with Pakistan, Nigeria,
>
> Niger among others. The lower the score, the more "failed" a state
>
> is.
>
>
>
> Anyway....the links:
>
>
>
> 1 - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Failed_States_Index
>
> (updated with 2012 Index)
>
>
>
> 2 - http://www.foreignpolicy.com/failed_states_index_2012_interactive
>
>
>
>
>
> Personally I don't think Kenya should rate that poorly out of a 177 or
>
> so countries...I suspect some of the 13 indices are weighted more
>
> heavy than others (corruption, criminality, political situation etc) -
>
> and if such were removed from the index, just for the sake of seeing
>
> how it shifts the rankings, I'd like to think some EU countries would
>
> be in the top 50 at least....social unrest, steep economic decline,
>
> slum creation (US - housing/mortgage crisis has seen more people
>
> living in the streets in the last couple of years than in the last
>
> half a century), Wall Street demos, etc, ...."Suspension or arbitrary
>
> application of law" (Guantano Bay still open for business, The
>
> Patriots Act).
>
>
>
> And "Intervention of external political agents" - I think in Africa's
>
> case these "political agents" are usually from (or supported/fronted)
>
> by some developing countries that would want to nurture certain
>
> regimes in order to reap some economic gain...but that's an argument
>
> for another day.
>
>
>
> I'm also surprised the use of the adjective "primitive" by Korean
>
> Airlines, to describe Kenyans, elicited more reactions than this lowly
>
> ranking...should we get all hot and bothered about what is likely an
>
> issue of translation or summon our national pride and repudiate this
>
> "failed" states index?
>
>
>
> Rgds
>
>
>
>
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