Don't forget - KRA already collects tax on m-pesa transactions - if Bob is listening here, perhaps he can tell us just how much this is! There is also the question of how much time and effort is spent (at what cost to the taxpayer!) chasing after all the small 'Lipa na m-pesa' dukas. There is a point where some taxes are not worth collecting - ie. costing more to administer and collect than the amount collected - case in point - road tax Does KRA already have powers, without notice, to examine our bank transaction records? Neither should they get into mobile money transactions without a court order! Cheers from a very wet Kwale County ;) On 10/05/2016, Ahmed Mohamed Maawy via kictanet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Thinking exactly the same thing.. Ali.
It is extremely surprising to me that the privacy issue has not been mentioned at all in all this. Even in the article. As Kenyans we tend to not understand how crucial privacy is. Especially in the context of what is going to go on here.
This is the exact same issue that has put governments in the west at a great pain to explain their *secretive* involvement in yet here we are comfortably going *public* about it.
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Ali Hussein via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
This is a great initiative to expand the tax bracket. Im just curious how this will be achieved considering the slippery slope that will be encountered on Privacy issues.
*Ali Hussein*
*Principal*
*Hussein & Associates*
Tel: +254 713 601113
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim <http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim>
Any information of a personal nature expressed in this email are purely mine and do not necessarily reflect the official positions of the organizations that I work with.
On Tue, May 10, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Grace Githaiga via kictanet < kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
@Grace B, do we have a law that would facilitate this? Or is KRA being over enthusiastic? How much would they really net in guys transacting a few thousands?
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 10 May 2016 14:09:05 +0300 Subject: [kictanet] KRA's radical plan to catch tax cheats From: kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke CC: nmutungu@gmail.com To: ggithaiga@hotmail.com
Listers,
KRA is targeting mobile money as part of the agency’s financial data gathering scheme that is meant to monitor businesses and individuals who are not paying their fair share of taxes.
People familiar with the plan said the taxman is at an advanced stage of rolling out a number crunching mechanism that will use electronic data to suggest incomes of those using mobile money to pay bills and make purchases.
Full article here: http://www.nation.co.ke/business/KRA-radical-plan-to-catch-tax-cheats/-/996/... -- Grace L.N. Mutung'u Nairobi Kenya Skype: gracebomu Twitter: @Bomu
<http://www.diplointernetgovernance.org/profile/GraceMutungu>
PGP ID : 0x33A3450F
_______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ggithaiga%40hotmail.co... The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development. KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
_______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet
Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/info%40alyhussein.com
The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
_______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet
Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/ultimateprogramer%40gm...
The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
-- *Ahmed Maawy* Executive Director - SwahiliBox / M-Power (CBO) Ambassador - Open Knowledge Director - Startup Grind Mombasa Software Developer - AJ+ / EveryLayer (KE) +254 714 960 627 Skype: ultimateprogramer
swahilibox.co.ke www.okfn.org <http://okfn.org/> startupgrind.com ajplus.net www.everylayer.com
-- Tony White