Hi Waithaka, I think there is a mis understanding here, I was suggesting on my posts that there is a lack of resources and these areas expertise and training to develop resources. I think if you align this on Racial grounds then we are already on the loosing side. From my point is how do we build out skills that we do not have to import this type of very specialised by vital expertise when there is a large design project are able to ensure good quality projects. Thanks, Best Regards, Baiju *Baiju Shah** |*Managing Partner* |* Phone: +254 701691570 ** *|*Mobile: +254 787332247 *|* Skype: baijushah* |* Email: [email protected]* | * *Telemedia Africa Ltd* *. * The information contained within this e-mail and any attachments ("Email") may contain legally privileged, proprietary and confidential information intended solely for the recipients listed as addresses. If you are not an addressee, any review, dissemination, disclosure, copying, distribution, retention, communication, or use of the contents of this Email is strictly prohibited. If this Email is received in error, immediately notify the original sender by return email or telephone Telemedia Africa Ltd at +254 787332247, and delete this Email. Telemedia Africa warrants neither the accuracy nor the completeness of the information contained in this Email. On Mon, Jan 9, 2017 at 10:01 PM, Ngigi Waithaka <[email protected]> wrote:
Baiju,
So you claim, there are no decent System Architects, Projects Managers, System Analysts in Kenya...
Would you perhaps extend that to other professions such as there are no decent Lawyers, Doctors, Architects etc in Kenya, or is ICT an exception?
In which case then, you would be suggesting that we were born 'lacking' a certain gene, perhaps, that would have endowed us with certain ICT capabilities.
The last time we heard such talk in this country was during the colonial period, when *Africans* could never be good at anything that the white man did, so I suggest you retract your statement above, as it racially loaded and has not place in this forum!
Regards Waithaka Ngigi
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On Jan 9 2017, at 8:56 pm, Baiju Shah via kictanet < [email protected]> wrote:
Hi Barrack,
If I agree with you then I am not being honest to this group. I have not seen a decent solution architect in exception the are from Somewhere else, I have not seen a decent business analysts or system analyst, I have not seen decent project managers...
Therefore, we need to get the education system up and running.
If you want ethics and integrity then let's award government jobs on merit and not who you know and what personal relationships exist, bring transparency to the whole. Can we do that?
Not really, it is impossible to get any traction on the government ICT jobs while a briefcase co or a co from anywhere else in wins the work because of their local agent who cannot even spell ICT. The company deploys a poor project as our stakeholders are not managed and our requirements have not been ratified and confirmed by business experts. We are not able to get a holistic delivery as the solution architecture was never done e.g. Please look at ifmis have a critical audit and compare them To the original set of requirements that were drawn up. I am sure you will not be allowed.
I hope this provides a view of my personal experiences and helps to put together a framework that the new Kenyan built technology solutions come to market and NOT built in the USA...
Thanks,
Best Regards, Baiju
On 9 Jan 2017, at 08:10, Barrack Otieno <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Baiju and colleagues,
Reading your comments, the main challenge is ethics and integrity. We have to address it even if it affects all of us. We are not short of qualified project management experts, Software Analysts and Designers as well as System Engineers. We are not short of industry lobby groups as well, we are short on ethics and integrity.
Regards
On 1/9/17, Baiju Shah via kictanet <[email protected]> wrote: Hi All,
Well now ok about the issues with the IFMIS, can we focus on building a better pool of business system analyst, solution design, quality assurance and project management. These are the key skills missing from the ICT sector, furthermore let's not blame the customer as we all lack a little or any amount of ethics... In reality please look at yourselves in the mirror and reflect when and where you individually have taken short cuts or came up with lame reasons for non delivery. Have created issues for fellow professionals who have won a project on merit. It my prayer that we get out stakeholder management sorted and develop a proper lobby group that is given a representation on the government projects to provide quality assurance and assure the delivery of the project in line with the vision, mission and scope signed off by the key stakeholders. Further provide advice on the Correctness of the scope which requires industry expertise per vertical. Therefore, my challenge to the group is what are we doing to align the technology with the business needs?
Thanks and have a good week,
Best Regards, Baiju
On 9 Jan 2017, at 05:29, Alex Watila via kictanet <[email protected]> wrote:
good morning, IFMIS is in the news again
State audit finds serious loopholes in Ifmis system - Daily Nation https://t.co/4dPksjnJBT
https://twitter.com/dailynation/status/818261005935448064
On 3 Dec 2016 12:08, "S.M. Muraya via kictanet" <[email protected]> wrote: Ngigi,
Nothing less than Multi Factor authentication is required in Kenya.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-factor_authentication
Negligence needs to be penalized (we know, in Kenya, prosecution never succeeds where looting succeeds).
This includes negligence of local talent, not just theft. Kickbacks are often deposited (invested) abroad. As such, foreign firms will always be favored by crooked officials. Developed nations penalize bribery because it compromises national pysche, skills and service delivery levels.
EACC should also look for good examples to publicize.
Public officials, organizations, who/which over a 24 month period, have sourced and provided MANNED (conversation recording) hotlines, e-mail addresses, feedback portals and CRM's to measure, and promptly provide citizen services.
Crooked officials have no problem with payment systems (which increase the funds they collect), but they neglect systems which measure, expose service delivery levels.
SMM
"Better a patient person than a warrior, one with self-control than one who takes a city." Prov 16:32
On Fri, Dec 2, 2016 at 9:45 AM, Waithaka Ngigi via kictanet <[email protected]> wrote: Ali,
It's also time to put professional blame squarely where it lies.
Any system tasked with moving *huge* sums of money and that does not come with at least Two-Factor authentication be *default* is either: 1. A very, very bad implementation 2. Intentionally left unsecure to allow looting.
Blaming users & ethics in our users is just looking for scapegoats. Citibank, Stanchart & other Financial Institutions do not rely on user ethics when using their online banking platforms. You key in your password, for every transaction, you confirm using your 2FA Code, ensuring it's only you, or someone you gave your physical 2FA card that can authenticate that transaction.
And that's before you put in anti-laundering functionality, which should catch most of those transactions dead in their tracks if well implemented. E.g before payment of sums above KSH 100m cross-check on company registration date, if less than 1 year, flag! Common addresses, Directors btn different firms.
Online payments in Kenya have been with us since the early 2000s, why is it we've never heard complaints from the Banks that billions are being lost through basic identity fraud similar to IFMIS.
Don't blame the Kenyan people, blame lies squarely with the Systems we have put in place.
Waithaka Ngigi
Alliance Technologies www.at.co.ke From: Ali Hussein via kictanet Sent: Friday, December 2, 2016 5:33 AM To: Ngigi Waithaka Reply To: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions Cc: Ali Hussein Subject: [kictanet] KISERO: Kenya’s corruption tsars have perfected looting through Ifmis - Daily Nation
Listers
Related to to the discussion of 'reigning in' quacks in the ICT Sector how do you explain the fiasco that is IFMIS?
Except from the article:-
In theory, the Ifmis system we have is based on Oracle E-Business Suite, an accounting package developed by Oracle of the USA. In reality, what is in place is a product of conspiracies between crafty government officials and local rent-seeking software merchants.
Through highly inflated and ill-conceived customisation and re-engineering projects, the merchants have colluded with public officials to create a mongrel of the original Oracle E-Business Suite.
This is the system at the heart of corruption in the public sector.
http://www.nation.co.ke/oped/Opinion/Kenya-corruption- tsars-have-perfected-looting-through-Ifmis/440808-3469632-kg5rbv/
So if we were to talk this discussion a step further:-
1. The customization of an Oracle E-Business Suite cannot be done by a 'quack' who isn't a Certified Oracle Software Engineer.
2. The customization must be approved by the client and mapped with the business processes mutually agreed by the vendor and the customer. In this case the government.
A pig is a pig even if you apply lipstick on it. Let's call this what it is - Corruption. Period. Perpetuated in this case by the client and using qualified IT Professionals. We in the industry must call out the ones who collude to fleece this country instead of chasing a red herring in the name of 'quacks'!
Ali Hussein Principal Hussein & Associates +254 0713 601113
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