Walu Thank you for putting words in the mouth of Government! :) Now if only someone in Government can agree/disagree with Walu's thoughts.. CCK you there? Ali Hussein +254 773/713 601113 Sent from my iPhone® On Jun 4, 2012, at 8:00 PM, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Ali,
am not in government but I can deduce "their" position...Most African Government Positions in international ICT matters is as spelled out by ITU. It has worked well in some areas - such as enforcing international standards in telephony and radio frequencies.
Am not sure the same approach would achieve similar success in matters purely Internet. But that does not mean that ITU will or should stop trying - particularly because telephony and other traditional telco-issues have indeed moved onto the internet platform and we dont want the ITU ecosystem stranded in the 20th Century...we got to move with them.
So until when we pass the Freedom of Information Bill , we shall continue to read the ITU lips/position in order to know what Kenya and the other big girls in Africa are thinking. However, Brasil, Rep S.A, India and China (BRIC countries ) were honest enough to state this (ITU) position loudly enough for everyone to hear during the last IGF meeting held in Nairobi 2011...
On another related but domestic issue, our laws expect the National Communication Secretariate to be the conveyor of our National Position, but in practice (I stand to be corrected) it appears the Regulator through ITU gets to have the last say.
walu.
--- On Mon, 6/4/12, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
From: Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Is the UN (Read Governments) the Next Big Threat to Internet Freedom? To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Monday, June 4, 2012, 7:15 PM
Indeed. I'm abit surprised by the silence from CCK and other Governmental Agencies on this issue. Does it mean we as a country do not have a position on this?
Ali Hussein
+254 773/713 601113
Sent from my iPhone®
On Jun 4, 2012, at 5:04 PM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
This is not just about ICANN, the ITRs that will are being negotiated in this process cover a whole gamut of Internet related things (such as peering and interconnection), not just names and numbers (a la ICANN).
We should have something to say in the formulation of the Kenyan position, certainly.
Regards,
McTim
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Ali Hussein <ali@hussein.me.ke> wrote:
Listers
Interesting article. A few weeks ago I raised the issue on Internet Freedom and Governance and asked whether our government has a position on this?
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-06-01/is-the-un-the-next-big-threa...
This article brings to the fore the different voices that are advocating for two key positions:-
1. Should the status quo remain? Where the key player ICANN (the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names & Numbers), which is a private, U.S.-based nonprofit organization) exerts control over the fundamental levers and gears that underlie the Internet—including the domain-name system. Although ICANN says it operates on a multistakeholder model that involves such groups as the Internet Engineering Task Force and the World Wide Web Consortium, there has been a lot of criticism of the organization over the years, from allegations of conflicts of interest to moves such as the recent expansion of the top-level domain system.
2. Should the UN, through the ITU (international Telecommunications Union take over from ICANN? Critics including one of the “fathers of the Internet,” TCP/IP developer Vinton Cerf say putting control of the Net under the UN body would subject the Internet to the whims of many nations whose commitment to democracy and free speech is questionable at best, including China and Russia. Cerf, who is currently the chief Internet evangelist at Google, said the move would threaten the free and open nature of the Internet:
As the Internet Community in Kenya do we have a position on this? The Kenya Government? CCK?
Regards
--
Ali Hussein|Managing Partner
Telemedia Africa Azania Technology Group
Chaka Court, Argwings Kodhek Road
P O Box 14556-00100
Office: +254 737 751409
Cell: +254 773/713 601113
Nairobi, Kenya
Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
"You generally hear that what a man doesn't know doesn't hurt him, but in business what a man doesn't know does hurt.". - E. St. Elmo Lewis, member, Advertising Hall of Fame
_______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet
Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/dogwallah%40gmail.com
The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.
_______________________________________________ kictanet mailing list kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/listinfo/kictanet
Unsubscribe or change your options at https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/mailman/options/kictanet/jwalu%40yahoo.com
The Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) is a multi-stakeholder platform for people and institutions interested and involved in ICT policy and regulation. The network aims to act as a catalyst for reform in the ICT sector in support of the national aim of ICT enabled growth and development.
KICTANetiquette : Adhere to the same standards of acceptable behaviors online that you follow in real life: respect people's times and bandwidth, share knowledge, don't flame or abuse or personalize, respect privacy, do not spam, do not market your wares or qualifications.