Hi All,
This has most certainly been a very enlightening session for the
short while I have been around. I must say that it does help to encourage more
industry players to participate through creation of visibility and demystifying
the whole Internet Governance/ ICANN setups. I don’t think we in Kenya
lack the drive or even the tricks to lobby, I just think the whole
ICANN/Internet Governance are generally shrouded in lots of secrecy, you would
almost think there are limited opportunities to go around.
My challenge to which I direct to myself first is that the
broader ICT community and Internet community more specifically MUST seek to get
the information out. More like the OFC kind of awareness that was created. The
internet community need not make this area such a technical and secretly run
group that the majority of stakeholders should be kept out but rather make it a
deliberate intention to inform the wider public about them through media. The
challenge goes to ICT Journalists as well, write more articles to do with the
subject. This way more and more members will gain awareness and next time such
chances come up it would be like CISA, CCNA Academies etc (Just examples of how
interest aroused creates even greater impact).
Just my thought.
EK
PS: McTim and the rest of the Kenyan “delegation” in
the conference great job. And the LOC, Congratulations for putting this
together, Alice & Co.
From:
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Behalf Of Judy Okite
Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 12:13 PM
To: emmanuel.khisa@kadet.co.ke
Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions
Subject: Re: [kictanet] ICANN: Africa must work hard too...
Hello All,
as much as we discuss all these,clearly, there is a
difference between attending the ICANN meeting and participating actively in
the event/conference/deliberations.
and yes, most importantly we need to understand the
process....there have been meetings where it seems like the panel is talking
and discussing amongst themselves, but again there has been opportunities
granted to us, as, Africans....and we've let them slide under.
Yesterday, I was VERY,VERY disappointed....this is not
a personal attack....AfTLD had an opportunity to make a presentation,but they
were missing in action.....it is one thing to make your presentation and put
emphasis on particular sessions and it is another for your
presentation to be flipped through....so why pass on such an opportunity!!!
we've got a whole lot of learning and working to do.....both
individually and continentally.
Kind Regards,
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 11:48 AM, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Mctim,
I think the same case applies to all the other African countries,
collective bargaining is the thing, how else will we handle emerging
security challenges and dispute resolution, brings in the question of
"Internet Governance"
Regards
On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:43 AM, Barrack Otieno
<otieno.barrack@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Mctim,
>
> I appreciate your point the thing is understanding the ICANN process,
> you must be empowered to participate in at-large discussions, maybe
> people like you or Njeri Rionge or Waudo can enlighten interested
> members in a townhall meeting, i was just thinking aloud :-), Africa
> is communal.
>
> Regards
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 11, 2010 at 10:36 AM, McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi barack, It would be fairly trivial for kictanet to become an als
>> (member) in at-large. The bottom line is that individuals should
>> become involved as per individual interests. Rgds, mctim
>>
>> On 3/11/10, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Good observation Becky,
>>>
>>> Am glad similar concerns were raised by the CEO KIXP at a forum
with
>>> the President Rod Beckstrom, she articulately raised the fact that
the
>>> constituencies need to be demystified and the president alluded to
>>> this fact, i noted that there are "ICANN VETERANS" and
they are quick
>>> to notify you on this which literally freezes a fast timer,
however
>>> the fact that we are thinking this way shows that we are moving in
the
>>> right direction, Dr. Siganga has for a number of times urged the
local
>>> community on this forum to join those constituencies the dilemma
is
>>> which one to join, we need forums at country level to look at how
we
>>> can contribute significantly to the ICANN process, the
constituencies
>>> are many and it is easy to get lost in the cloud. Probably it can
be a
>>> structured discussion on KICTANET, what do you say Walu?
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 10, 2010 at 10:59 AM, Wamuyu Gatheru
>>> <wamuyulearn@yahoo.co.uk>
wrote:
>>>> The notion of the USA contributing 90% to ICANN ,because most
registrars,
>>>> are based there was challenged at the ccNSO meeting yesterday.
The
>>>> registrars obtain their revenues from internet users across
the world -
>>>> and
>>>> Africa's share is growing especially with broadband. Europeans
and others
>>>> who spoke thereafter in the ccNSO meeting all began their
statements by
>>>> saying that they make payments to ICANN.
>>>>
>>>> regards, Wamuyu
>>>> ________________________________
>>>> From: "alice@apc.org"
<alice@apc.org>
>>>> To: wamuyulearn@yahoo.co.uk
>>>> Cc: KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
>>>> Sent: Tue, 9 March, 2010 17:52:40
>>>> Subject: [kictanet] ICANN: Africa must work hard too...
>>>>
>>>> http://wanjiku.co.ke/
>>>>
>>>> ICANN: Africa must work hard too...
>>>> 08 03 2010
>>>> Comments: 3
>>>> Available in: English
>>>>
>>>> There are many African governments and citizens who do not
understand the
>>>> role of the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and
Numbers.
>>>>
>>>> For some, ICANN should operate in the bottom later ensuring
that we have
>>>> internet access and that the pipes are faster. Others think
that ICANN
>>>> should be involved in the running of domain registries, which
are in
>>>> shambles and in some cases fighting over petty issues. Others
think that
>>>> ICANN is there to fund them; talk of reliance on aid.
>>>>
>>>> Of course ICANN has no role in all these things and what it
points is that
>>>> more outreach is needed and maybe ICANN should have an office
in Africa.
>>>>
>>>> But how? According to Rod Beckstrom, 90 percent of ICANN
contributions
>>>> come from North America, so that may be the reason why we have
3 offices
>>>> in the US and none in Africa.
>>>>
>>>> That makes sense; if Africa does not contribute anything, how
will the
>>>> office be supported? So, for Africa to be on level terms, then
we must
>>>> also be willing to contribute, but am not sure how when our
registry
>>>> operations are still manual.
>>>>
>>>> I was chatting with Rafik Dammak, who accuses me of
complaining or whining
>>>> too much but then, what do I do?
>>>>
>>>> Rafik told me of how the various constituencies within ICANN
are always
>>>> looking for participants but what do you do when they dont
contribute to
>>>> those meetings and in some cases stay outside within the
coffee houses
>>>> instead of meeting rooms?
>>>>
>>>> Yes, its good to have geographical representations but we also
need to
>>>> start bringing something on the table and contributing to the
debate more
>>>> than we do currently.
>>>>
>>>> Regarding the financial contributions, I have no words; will
leave it for
>>>> the others.
>>>>
>>>> Ends
>>>>
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>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> McTim
>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is.
A
>> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
>>
>
>
>
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> Administrative Manager
> Afriregister Ltd (Ke)
> P.o.Box 21682
> Nairobi 00100
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> +254202498789
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