Many thanks Walu. I suppose Wanjiku is just too confused with this analogue and digital issues. It is an area that needs to be addressed comprehensively post this election. I would like to here what our learned friends have to say about this issue taking into consideration the Judgement that was made.

Best Regards

On Fri, Jul 15, 2022 at 2:47 PM Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
For me the fact that IEBC will no longer BROADCAST the 'text' Presidential results the way they normally do at Bomas of KEnya big screen is a big drawback.

Whereas I do understand the Supreme Court challenged them on whether that broadcastes text results is 'the result' or whether the image of Form34 is the results is not sufficient reason enough for them NOT to broadcast the text results.

Not broadcasting the text results - in the random nature that they came - not only denies 'Wanjiku' the transparency to see how her Presidential candidate is progressing (or not), but it also creates a gap or opaqueness in terms of what could be happening - behind the scenes (even if nothing is happening).

The fact that  IEBC will still upload the image of FORM34 for Wanjiku to do her own tallies is not the answer since Wanjiku has no capacity, time or bandwidth to be tallying 45,000 or so FORMS as they get uploaded on the IEBC portal just to know which presidential candidate is ahead at a given particular time.

Perhaps, IEBC could still consider the option of broadcasting the Presidential 'TEXT' results once they have cross-checked with their physical copies as they arrive at Bomas.

walu.


On Friday, July 15, 2022 at 01:22:00 PM GMT+3, Barrack Otieno via KICTANet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:


Many thanks Benson, Moses and Mutheu for contributing to yesterday's discussion. Listers the floor is still open for you to contribute'i will share a summary of todays discussion.

Thank  you

Best Regards

On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 11:02 PM Benson Muite via KICTANet <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> wrote:
Transmission of results can also be done by USSD not just by internet. A
credible process cannot be ensured by ICT aspects alone, though ICT can
increase efficiency. Observers should also be able to report results
that are announced at polling stations.

While there is a law on data protection, educational and technical
aspects seem less well developed. This affects other areas, not just
elections.

Holistic planning is missing, many polling stations are schools, so
purchasing infrastructure just for the election and not having a reuse
plan may be a waste of resources.

It may be worth comparing with information provided to voters and
procedures followed in other African countries, for example South Africa
and Ghana:
https://www.elections.org.za/pw/Downloads/Documents-Voter-Education-Material
https://ec.gov.gh/elections-instructions/

On 7/14/22 12:58, Barrack Otieno via KICTANet wrote:
> Listers,
>
> To give you further insights kindly refer
> <https://www.kictanet.or.ke/mdocs-posts/technology-deployment-in-kenyas-2017-general-election/>
> to previous reports on Tech and elections prepared by KICTANet. /The
> Kenya ICT Action Network (KICTANet) deployed a 25-person election
> observer mission for Kenya’s 2017 General Election that took place on
> August 8, 2017. Kenyans voted for six positions namely Presidential,
> Senate, Parliamentary, Women’s Representative, Governor, and Member of
> County Assembly. KICTANet’s observation focused specifically on the use
> of technology from a user perspective and accordingly released a
> preliminary report
> <https://lists.kictanet.or.ke/pipermail/kictanet/attachments/20170811/356bef8e/attachment.pdf>
> which was published on 11 August 2017./Are there outstanding issues that
> need to be addressed?
>
> On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 12:05 PM Barrack Otieno
> <otieno.barrack@gmail.com <mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Dear Moses,
>
>     Many thanks for your observations. I totally agree with you. Would
>     you support any form of tools that IEBC can use to avail some of
>     this information easily. Accessibility is definately a key issue. I
>     tried accessing the Website yesterday but could not make it i guess
>     due to demand. Be that as it may it would be great to have a website
>     that factors in our differently abled brothers and sisters. Would
>     appreciate specific recommendations on the tools IEBC can use. The
>     time is shortly but as Commissioner Wanderi said yesterday, time is
>     never short for good ideas to be implemented. Listers, Keep the
>     ideas coming.
>
>     Best Regards
>
>     On Thu, Jul 14, 2022 at 10:12 AM Moses Karanja via KICTANet
>     <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke
>     <mailto:kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>> wrote:
>
>         Two observations:
>
>         1. *Dedicate more attention to the official website as the main
>         communication channel. *There seems to be an assumption that
>         Facebook and Twitter are public spaces. If you compare the
>         information posted on IEBC's Facebook page and what is on their
>         website, you will realize the idea of /public access/ to
>         information is compromised. Facebook does not allow unsigned-in
>         individuals to access more than a sneak peak of pages, even the
>         so called "public" ones, despite the claims they make. Facebook
>         also breaks RSS feeds every so often to force people to sign up
>         on those surveillance platforms. This is not a request to
>         Facebook to make their surveillance platform more
>         public-friendly, rather a request to IEBC to treat public
>         information as truly public by investing in their official website.
>
>         2. *Publish standardized machine readable data.* The report IEBC
>         published regarding 2013 election is different from what they
>         published in 2017 and it is again different from the 2022
>         tables. Posting PDFs makes using that data harder and creates
>         room for error as the conversion of such data to formats like
>         csv increases entropy. This request has been made by so many
>         people in the last decade+ you feel there is more to this
>         refusal than plain technical limits.
>
>         - Njoroge wa Karanja
>
>         On 2022-07-13 14:02, Barrack Otieno via KICTANet wrote:
>>         Listers,
>>
>>         Earlier today, KICTANet held a consultative meeting with IEBC
>>         Commissioners led by Chairman Wafula Chebukati and the
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>>         Mr. Michael Ouma. This follows KICTANets participation in the
>>         IEBC National Elections Conference yesterday. The need for
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>>         1. What issues do you have in so far as Tech and elections is
>>         concern in Kenya?
>>         2. What recommendations do you have in so far as the use of
>>         Tech and elections is concerned in Kenya?
>>         The discussion will take place on Thursday 14th July 2022 and
>>         Friday 15th July 2022
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