MO, Alex,
Ease up abit. Dont imagine I dont want affordable internet prices.
Infact
if you had time and googled my online contributions over the last
5years, you
will realize I have been raising the red-flag about fiber vis a viz
pricing.
The other day I reloaded my Safcom modem with 1,000/= (300MB service).
It
all disappeared within 5days! Previously before SEACOM it would take
longer
(3weeks) to disappear because of the slower speeds. Better speeds
encourage
faster and broader browsing but it hurts (financially) and its not
funny.
I think our differences lie in the approach to having reduced prices. I
chose
the academic route because thats my background. Feel free to pursue
your
routes to reduced prices - but plse be cautious because the solution is
NOT
domiciled in ONE stakeholder. Its not with the Regulator, nor the
techies, nor
the activists, nor the Consumers, nor the Govt, nor the Media, etc.
Instead I believe it is with ALL of the above. And it will be
unfortunate
to alienate any of them while pursuing reduced prices.
walu.
nb1: and thats why I had copied to what Alex calls my "home-tuff"
(just ropping in other stakeholders).
nb2: I also note and do appreciated your legal counterarguments but
decline to
respond as at now since I will cover that and other issues during the
upcoming ICT conference at SU (I think will be free to sambaza the
paper
thereafter for those interested).
--- On Mon, 8/17/09, mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>
wrote:
From: mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] the long fibre
lie...Regulatory Action
limited.
To: "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Date: Monday, August 17, 2009, 10:13 AM
Again
Safaricom CEO who is also heads the board of
TEAMS says that TEAMS benefits could not be
realised because
onward connection with Europe
has not
been fully discussed.
How can you initiate a flight from Kenya
to Nigeria
without
getting the landing rights in Nigeria
and flight clearance
for CAR, DRC, Sudan
and all the countries you are going to
overfly?
Cheap Cheap Cheap and we wont be duped. I have
seen people in this list who support the
crooked CEOs just
because they need favors for contracts and
interviews for
their educations research papers. Hypocrites
they are.
Lets be realistic
MO
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 9:10 AM,
mike oketch <mikeoketch@gmail.com>
wrote:
Walubengo
Yours are just too simplistic than the
Alex's you are saying that are simplistic.
The fact that
kenya
could not regulate Oil prices doesnt mean that
Tanzania
couldnt. The fact that SAT 3 operators couldnt be
regulated cannont mean that the operators
here cannot be
regulated.
Stop all these fake comparisons. Prices must
come down and we will face them at every
conference and
every Barcamp and will tell these unpatriotic
who have
pocketed our PS off. Your arguments just dont
wash.
MO
On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 8:40 AM,
Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com>
wrote:
Alex,
Your have rightly qaulified your solution -
as simple.
Indeed it is. Infact too simplistic to fly.
The idea
that the Regulator can reign in Operators who
charge
"high" internet rates cannot and will not
work.
Think about the in-famous SAT3 fiber link on
the west
coast of africa.
Ask yourself
why the Regulators in
Nigeria,
Ghana, Cameroon, Angola, S-Africa etc have
never
stepped in and revoked licensces of operators
over the
last 15yrs of high internet costs offered on
the fiber...
The answers are very complex...I will
actually be
discussing these limitations and available
interventions in
some upcoming ICT conference at Strath University
in Sept 09
and I dont want to pre-empt ;-)....
walu.
--- On Fri, 8/14/09, Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com>
wrote:
From: Gakuru Alex <alexgakuru.lists@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Skunkworks] Fwd: the long fibre
lie...
Ndemo should resign if internet prices do not
drop as he
promised!!
To: "Skunkworks forum" <skunkworks@lists.my.co.ke>
Date: Friday, August 14, 2009, 8:44 PM
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 7:38 PM,
David Kiania | Asentric Consulting
Ltd<kianiadee@gmail.com>
wrote:
Set the precedence what's your solution? Am
sure if
you did we'd have
heard it by now. This thread is a knee jerk
reaction
to a bad internet
day, we all have one.
Simple, the entity under Ndemo's docket that
grants these
cowboy
operators licenses puts it's foot down and
warn
that I may
revoke
licenses for operators that charge waaaay up
in the
sky not
just above
cost but ABOVE acceptable international
pricing
benchmarks.
They've
all the data they need. Imagine, for example,
Safaricom on
the verge
of losing their license, price drops, drops,
drops,
drops,
drops, and
drops..... across board.
Would this be acceptable to you?
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