Dr. Ndemo, All
I agree it is a very thin line that we have to strive to balance on. ICT is and should be cross cutting into socio-economic and political spheres. But the way I see it is for the list is as follows:
1. Pure Politcs:
"Why its wrong for Kenya to Pacify Bashir": then followed by discussions for and against the move to pacify Bashir. Many vibrant lists exist for this type of conversations e.g http://www.mashada.com/
2. ICTs and Politics
"How Media is (mis?)leading the Masses in the Bashir Case": then followed by discussions on how this could be propagated or curtailed using new media?(FB, Twitter, etc). Obviously this is the "boring" option but it is what KICTAnet is/was about ref: http://www.kictanet.or.ke/
I could be wrong but option 2 is they way I have always viewed this list. Another example.
1. Pure Ranting.
"No Fuel, No Electricity, No Water". Again, many lists exists elsewhere to ventilate on this. Indeed I have quite ventilated on this on my twitter handle @jwalu. But have a look at point 2 below
2. ICTS and Fuel, Electricity, Water, -What ICT tools exists to prevent persistent shortages in Fuel, Power, Water etc? Obviously this again is probably the "boring" option but closer to the KICTAnet mission http://www.kictanet.or.ke/
But that was the thinking 8yrs ago, maybe what Listers are saying is that they want this to change and hey, I cannot stop that since it is about democracy and what the majority want. But I can remind you that this list is both local and international and unless contributors seek to bring out the ICT connection, quite a bit of Listers are likely to seek a way out.
walu.
--- On Wed, 12/7/11, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
From: bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke>
Subject: Re: [kictanet] Why It's Wrong For Kenya To Try Pac ifying Angry Bashir-offtopic?
To: "Walubengo J" <jwalu@yahoo.com>, kictanet-bounces+bitange=jambo.co.ke@lists.kictanet.or.ke
Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke>
Date: Wednesday, December 7, 2011, 10:41 AMWalubengo,
Yesterday we spent a great deal of time discussing how technology will impact governance in the days a head. We heard arguments from leading social scientists, economists, politicians and journalists.
Then in my break I read your post on refocusing our discussions around IT issues. I have spent the night reflecting on this and now I am a bit confused. What do we mean when we say ICT is cross cutting? What is content in ICT terms? Can we use ICT as a tool for development? And what is development?
Ndemo.
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Bashir-offtopic?
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