Liko, The PS is and must be party to this case before court because he sits on the CCK board...but hey, his is of age - and if he wants to blog his heart out on the issue he is free to do so. I would not want to look like his gate or mouth keeper ;-) walu. --- On Fri, 8/12/11, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> wrote: From: Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Extended due to Public Demand(off-topic) To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Friday, August 12, 2011, 11:58 PM Barrack, Its not illegal to comment unless there is a gag order or you are a party in the case.. On this list, we continue talking about many cases ... Again, I am not a lawyer.. Thanks On 8/12/11, Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack@gmail.com> wrote:
Liko, As Walu suggests, let's avoid commenting on an issue that is before the courts, the law has a very long arm.
On 8/12/11, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
Walu
Thanks for the contribution.
Daktari has made a very good and very appealing pitch .. But its about what can be done, the Kenya we want...
As part of leadership, I would love to hear his views on this issue, am sure Daktari has views, I would like to have them flow
On the mailing list ..
:)
On 8/11/11, Walubengo J <jwalu@yahoo.com> wrote:
@Liko,
am not a lawyer but I can tell you once a matter is in court, it would be dangerous to comment on the same - especially for an office like the PS.
however, as a layman, I probably may get away with a comment or two. So here is how I see it. 1. Looks like this Mutoro man did indeed walk the talk and sued. 2. Looks like he has won round one and may as well win the next round. 3. HOWEVER, there's really a "new" board in place and therefore 4. If the issue in dispute was that the DGs appointment was irregular due to lack of Board blessing THEN now 5. there's nothing that stops the "new" board from providing the said blessing and HENCE 6. projected end game: DG out for now, DG back later.
hmm sound like a computer program - been while since I coded :-(
walu. nb: apologies to the GG/Ndemo for the commercial break, plse continue with the Presidential manifesto topics...
--- On Thu, 8/11/11, Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Agosta Liko <agostal@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [kictanet] Bitange for President? Extended due to Public Demand To: jwalu@yahoo.com Cc: "KICTAnet ICT Policy Discussions" <kictanet@lists.kictanet.or.ke> Date: Thursday, August 11, 2011, 4:49 PM
Dr Ndemo
Very illuminating thoughts :)
Now, tell us what is happening at CCK
On 8/11/11, bitange@jambo.co.ke <bitange@jambo.co.ke> wrote:
Grace, Thank you for extending the debate to Monday. I hope I get time to articulate some of the issues that will impact our lives in the next few years. Earlier I said that we are not alone in how we are dealing with our social development. I went ahead and gave examples from the US and UK. Although it is an unfortunate for the British people, it has come to pass. Even the Central Bank we got some good debate out of my post.
Leadership requires selfless commitment to the people they lead. It is a sacrifice one makes. In this respect, I will seek for advisors who have demonstrated ability to serve their country with dedication. We have these people but they have never been given a chance to lead. The constitution has accorded us the opportunity to search for such people. If you read today’s front page Standard, it has the requirement for those who want to join the electoral commission. If we follow the requirement to the letter, we shall get credible people. It is this process that lacked before and political operatives took charge in many posts within government.
Indeed there will be a policy guideline on all organizations registered under Societies Act. It is in the interest of the public that these organizations file annual returns to the registrar because they are tax exempt. Tax exemption means that we the public partly fund their activities. Further the state has a responsibility to protect its citizens from being taken advantage of. We cannot burry our heads in the sand on this issue no matter how sensitive it is. We shall also be implementing our constitution with respect to Bill of Rights.
Regards
Ndemo.
Listers
We have received requests (offline) that we allow "Candidate" Ndemo more time for him to respond to more concerns being raised.
This is to let you know that the 'official campaign period" has been extended up to Monday August 15, 2011.
And now Dr. Ndemo, Harry Delano did ask you to say what kind of advisors you would be looking for to help shape policy. Can we hear you on this one too? You also make a valid point about churches and the fact that they are not audited. I know for example in Washington DC, Parish priests have to present audited accounts to Parishoners once a year, while the Bishop fundraises through a system that is open to public scrutiny. Would you then make a policy decision on this? On a light note, may I remind you that your responses will go into the 'manifesto' and translate into more or less "votes" :)
Listers, let the debate continue.
Rgds GG
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